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The Liberal Lion

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16. As a vaper I would say this is perhaps one of his smartest moves
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 10:08 AM
Nov 2019

I see some posters making the absurd claim that trump was somehow paid off not to install this ludicrous flavor ban. There was no pay-off I can guarantee you that. The reasons why vaping was attacked is because it's lack lobbying presence, the disorganized nature of the leading advocacy groups, and advocacy being mainly consumer based instead of producer based like all other industries with a strong lobbying presence. trump changed his mind for two reasons (and the left would do well to learn this lesson): 1) there was a massive rally in DC just last weekend where vapers protested the vape ban and 2) a significant portion of his constituents vape. As a matter of fact there were a TON of people I know who voted for trump ONLY because of the vaping issue. These people would have normally voted for a democrat. I'm not a single issue voter, but because of the vape issue alone had a Kasich or a Bush had won the nomination I may have been tempted to take a second look. The left seems oblivious to the fact of a) just how many vapers there are and b) just how many of them they are alienating with this silly war on vaping, people who would normally vote for a democrat.

Pick your battles well fellow liberals, progressives, centrist and even conserve-dems, fighting vaping is not a battle you can win.

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Asshole ! But yiz already know that. 3Hotdogs Nov 2019 #1
The shrub admin was... Maxheader Nov 2019 #9
But the "base" believes he did something. rickford66 Nov 2019 #2
Still waiting for the flavor ban on alcohol RandiFan1290 Nov 2019 #3
That's a good point jberryhill Nov 2019 #6
FRUIT flavors!!!1 RandiFan1290 Nov 2019 #25
Wonder how much duforsure Nov 2019 #4
This would be a good "Follow the Money" story. Like you said, he didn't switch for nothing. mpcamb Nov 2019 #20
"she's got a son". Not 'our son'. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #5
The real reason why we have a vaping "crisis" JonLP24 Nov 2019 #7
Exactly, and u can be sure most anti-vaping hysteria is coming from Big Tobacco Baclava Nov 2019 #11
"she's got a son" Javaman Nov 2019 #8
I certainly don't have any interest in trying it myself but I thought the ban was stupid. cstanleytech Nov 2019 #10
According to the research that is an oxymoron: in no condition is it safe. Ford_Prefect Nov 2019 #12
It's not "still as dangerous" eggplant Nov 2019 #14
Complete absurdity The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #15
Well breathing the air or drinking the water in a number of places is not exactly safe either. cstanleytech Nov 2019 #17
The chemistry of the vapor is intended to convey nicotine into the bloodstream of the inhaler. Ford_Prefect Nov 2019 #21
Someone must have made a big contribution. C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #13
As a vaper I would say this is perhaps one of his smartest moves The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #16
I am curious. Why do you like to vape? CTyankee Nov 2019 #18
Three reason actually The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #33
Interesting. I know only one person who vapes and she does so outdoors at our tailgate parties CTyankee Nov 2019 #34
Good questions The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #36
wow. I didn't know that... CTyankee Nov 2019 #38
They voted for Trump ONLY because of vaping? LeftInTX Nov 2019 #19
Please see comment #30 The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #31
Agree 100%. If they ban all flavorings, they then kill the good purpose of vaping..... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #23
I'm a mixer too The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #32
Great! I started out of necessity in early 2011. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #35
You've named a truth in vaping that not many non-vapers realize The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #37
I didn't hear much about vaping during the 2016 campaign IronLionZion Nov 2019 #26
It was a HUGE issue The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #30
Uh huh atreides1 Nov 2019 #27
I doubt it was because of JUUL The Liberal Lion Nov 2019 #29
Wishy washy motherfucker, huh? Same thing with gun control. truthisfreedom Nov 2019 #22
More wishy washy B$? Brainfodder Nov 2019 #24
Study? He won't "study" anything. louis-t Nov 2019 #28
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