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33. SO LET THE CONSERVATIONISTS BUY THEM - they can move them elsewhere!!

Reply to NickB79 (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 9, 2020, 05:54 PM

Feb 2020

Don't spread that idea here that it's for any reason other than to allow blood sport for the elite.

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Botswana Selling Licenses To Kill Elephants At $39,000 A Head [View all] packman Feb 2020 OP

Wait, so you're saying conservationists were not allowed to buy permits??!?!?! Coventina Feb 2020 #1

Lol ... your original version was unclear? mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #77

Heh, yeah, initially I left out the word "not" in my post title. Coventina Feb 2020 #84

Well, I guess the Trump boys will be applying for licenses. area51 Feb 2020 #2

Fingers crossed atreides1 Feb 2020 #4

Yeah, fuck those Secret Service guys for doing their job! How dare they! Jedi Guy Feb 2020 #5

Oh, Beavis and Butthead tRump likely Scarsdale Feb 2020 #7

Thank you!! n/t Coventina Feb 2020 #10

I wouldn't be fond of doing it, either. Jedi Guy Feb 2020 #11

Someone doesn't have to do it. christx30 Feb 2020 #15

Given how difficult and competitive it is to be on the protective detail, I wouldn't quit. Jedi Guy Feb 2020 #17

A Secret Service job is very hard to get Polybius Feb 2020 #25

I agree pandr32 Feb 2020 #13

They can just take more money from charities for veterans and children. keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #12

Evil is consuming this planet. democratisphere Feb 2020 #3

Put the Trump twins - Beavis and Butthead - down for three, so that'll be one each. marble falls Feb 2020 #6

Elephants deserve to live more than greedy, stupid humans Yeehah Feb 2020 #8

+1 Kurt V. Feb 2020 #53

I cry for the elephants of the world CountAllVotes Feb 2020 #9

Botswana's elephant population has tripled in the past 30 yr NickB79 Feb 2020 #14

We must kill the elephants to save them!!!! Coventina Feb 2020 #19

We are overpopulating the planet, but refuse to do anything NickB79 Feb 2020 #20

Yes, it enrages me. Coventina Feb 2020 #21

Team Corona, United! nt mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #79

. Coventina Feb 2020 #85

+1 HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #29

You can definitely discuss it with me and Coventina ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #78

There are only 2 million people in Botswana and 130,000 elephants. milestogo Feb 2020 #39

No, not really. We are over-populating the planet. Every biologist will tell you so. Coventina Feb 2020 #40

Botswana is by no means overpopulated. milestogo Feb 2020 #41

Elephants are by no means overpopulated. n/t Coventina Feb 2020 #42

You're deliberately ignoring the particulars of the situation. milestogo Feb 2020 #43

I despise anyone who kills animals for sport. I despise anyone who kills an Coventina Feb 2020 #44

Do you eat meat? milestogo Feb 2020 #47

No, I do not. n/t Coventina Feb 2020 #52

They're not killing them for sport. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #60

Are the hunters going to eat them? If not, it's for sport and despicable. n/t Coventina Feb 2020 #62

I assume they won't. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #65

There is no good reason to be killing these elephants. None. Coventina Feb 2020 #66

They will never recover to historic norms. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #67

As a human, who expects humans to behave with "humanity" I criticize any and all nations Coventina Feb 2020 #69

Probably the meat will go to Botswana poor. Hangingon Feb 2020 #93

SO LET THE CONSERVATIONISTS BUY THEM - they can move them elsewhere!! flamingdem Feb 2020 #33

Did you read the article? packman Feb 2020 #36

Couldn't we buy the tickets and not do anything with them? Initech Feb 2020 #64

'Whups, I missed. Time to go home.' AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #68

"Near-sentient"?? Doremus Feb 2020 #96

The treasury department under Mnuchin Scarsdale Feb 2020 #16

People were afraid Botswana would reverse its animal protections after sinkingfeeling Feb 2020 #18

Help me here. Botswana is home to some 130,000 elephants, the world's largest population. Nitram Feb 2020 #22

Oh FFS HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #28

African elephants are an endangered species. Poaching for sinkingfeeling Feb 2020 #31

The IUCN moved African elephants from endangered to vulnerable status in 2004, in part because the Nitram Feb 2020 #34

We must kill the elephants to save them!!!!! Coventina Feb 2020 #37

Facile, simplistic, and just plain non-scientific. Limiting an animal population to the size that a Nitram Feb 2020 #56

On the contrary, most biologists now say that "wildlife management" is wrong-headed. Coventina Feb 2020 #58

I'm afraid that is not possible in a world which animals share with humans. To "leave animals alone Nitram Feb 2020 #72

The problem is that we are not "sharing." Humans have no business pretending we're the Coventina Feb 2020 #74

It is not only a problem of human hubris. Unless you want to start culling humans, the Nitram Feb 2020 #75

I will never, ever, EVER find it acceptable to kill wildlife in favor of humans. EVER. Coventina Feb 2020 #76

You haven't answered the main question. How can animal species survive unless either we cull human Nitram Feb 2020 #87

Interesting stance, Coventina. If a scientific calculation proved that your death would provide more Nitram Feb 2020 #88

I'm quite happy to kill myself. I think I made that clear already. n/t Coventina Feb 2020 #89

Oh, my! Nitram Feb 2020 #90

WWF and AWF disagree. sinkingfeeling Feb 2020 #38

Why must you pretend that the Africa of 90 years ago is still relevant to a discussion of Nitram Feb 2020 #57

Oh, go away. I was just there in November. Elephants and sinkingfeeling Feb 2020 #59

I lived in Africa for two years. Don't lecture me about your little "visits." How do you propose Nitram Feb 2020 #73

This sucks.hey will then have no reason for any tourism in Botswana. Very horrible choice. Eco-tour- Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #23

There is plenty of reason for tourism in Botswana. milestogo Feb 2020 #45

How much would a permit... SergeStorms Feb 2020 #24

This really disappoints me since I worked in Botswana for a short time in 1995 and abqtommy Feb 2020 #26

sad to kill elephants!! marieo1 Feb 2020 #27

Evil bastards. blueseas Feb 2020 #30

Whatever Botswana's reason is for allowing this, Talitha Feb 2020 #32

Yes, seriously. Duppers Feb 2020 #35

REMINDER: The people of Botswana have the right to self - determination. milestogo Feb 2020 #46

Christ, does your post miss the point and wander off packman Feb 2020 #49

Wow, just wow. milestogo Feb 2020 #50

We are the world packman Feb 2020 #54

Thank you. You don't just have a right , you Phoenix61 Feb 2020 #55

Western gun assholes... MountCleaners Feb 2020 #92

I'll take the elephants over crappy humans any day, no matter what country they are. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #82

So Africans are crappy humans? milestogo Feb 2020 #83

Go blow a smoke screen elsewhere. Crappy people think killing majestic animals is ok. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #86

And xenophobes see Africans as crappy people. milestogo Feb 2020 #91

I see people who authorize it, people who buy the permits and people who do the killing as crappy. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #95

As usual it's money and greed. Jack-o-Lantern Feb 2020 #48

there are like a handful of fission/ fusion society's across all of the animal kingdom. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #51

I say we raise the money and buy it and then don't do anything with it. Initech Feb 2020 #61

Sadly, they are not allowing conservationists to purchase the permits. Coventina Feb 2020 #63

Namibian elephants counter attack the murderers of their friend. Marcuse Feb 2020 #70

Can I sell them for only $800? Brainfodder Feb 2020 #71

I'm gonna just say ... more than anyone in this scenario I'm disgusted most by the people who'd mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #80

I wonder if that money could have been raised... MountCleaners Feb 2020 #94

Horrible. I wonder if there is any way to find out who bought them. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #81