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DarthDem

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45. There's a bit more to the story than that
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:11 PM
Apr 2020

There are many reasons why there is no HIV vaccine. Probably the broadest scientific reason is that the virus' very nature attacks the immune system, which therefore (simplifying a bit) complicates many of the traditional ways of developing anti-viral vaccines. Two other scientific problems are that HIV mutates very quickly and it has many, many strains. But the most important reason why there is no HIV vaccine is lack of research and funding on a global scale. There are very sad sociological reasons for this, and ironically the highly effective development of HIV treatments has slowed the search for a vaccine. None of these issues - not one - is present with regard to SARS-CoV-2.

As for SARS-CoV-1 and MERS, the former died out very quickly and the second is extremely rare. That is why there are no vaccines for either, not for lack of trying. No one wanted to fund a vaccine for a nonexistent threat or a very rare one. This was, of course, a severe mistake and yet another reason why we shouldn't have Big Pharma making these sorts of decisions for the entire human population.

SARS-CoV-2 is currently the subject of a worldwide therapy and vaccine search by the entire scientific community. It's a significant contrast.

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I'm still being on a vaccine, call me crazy. dem4decades Apr 2020 #1
Same. Initech Apr 2020 #32
Testing is critical and tracing contact exposure is also key. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #2
It may end Rebl2 Apr 2020 #3
This...⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ pbmus Apr 2020 #4
I read that Remdesivir (sp?) has been helping. ananda Apr 2020 #5
It's currently undergoing tasting in macaques. Aristus Apr 2020 #29
Like early HIV drugs... Politicub Apr 2020 #53
They have found that , like HIV, it destroys T-cells lowering the immune systems response to it. nt yaesu Apr 2020 #10
Please provide a citation for this statement Akakoji Apr 2020 #12
There's no such evidence DarthDem Apr 2020 #21
pffft yaesu Apr 2020 #25
I like that too DarthDem Apr 2020 #44
If you find a cite, I'm genuinely interested. JudyM Apr 2020 #51
You will find more than you want to at this link... pbmus Apr 2020 #28
Nothing there DarthDem Apr 2020 #43
There are 263 articles on that link in one database and you couldn't find one... pbmus Apr 2020 #46
Thanks for this, pbmus. JudyM Apr 2020 #55
You are more than welcome... pbmus Apr 2020 #57
I've been involved in bat virus research and EBOLA, MERS and HIV/AIDS for 40 years now Akakoji Apr 2020 #61
Try this link. Igel Apr 2020 #23
These are what I've read. BadgerMom Apr 2020 #38
AIDs is a whole different ballgame as that infection is one the body cannot get rid of nor can it be cstanleytech Apr 2020 #24
Not really...sort of wishful thinking...presently a 2.1% reinfected rate in SK.. pbmus Apr 2020 #30
Detection of viral RNA NutmegYankee Apr 2020 #50
A little up in the air...literally pbmus Apr 2020 #58
Given her history of cancer treatment, she may have just had a slower immune response. NutmegYankee Apr 2020 #60
Doomsday stories get the clicks Steelrolled Apr 2020 #6
Vegas line is heavy bad times for awhile.... ashredux Apr 2020 #7
I agree. Many of my colleagues are shamelessly dread trolling for dollars Akakoji Apr 2020 #13
Yes, and people often don't realize that "leading experts" are real-life Steelrolled Apr 2020 #19
+1 DarthDem Apr 2020 #22
This and climate change require international cooperation burrowowl Apr 2020 #8
If there is one silver lining angrychair Apr 2020 #27
So we have a vaccine for Ebola videohead5 Apr 2020 #9
It's just that vaccines take time TexasBushwhacker Apr 2020 #26
Work on the Ebola vaccine began more than 20 years ago Politicub Apr 2020 #54
Tired of the doomsaying on this issue DarthDem Apr 2020 #11
Well, creating a vaccine is not exactly easy Akakoji Apr 2020 #15
Sure DarthDem Apr 2020 #17
+1,000!!! CountAllVotes Apr 2020 #31
Yeah, but no one wants to publish GOOD news. No one cares about good news. Jedi Guy Apr 2020 #16
Zactly DarthDem Apr 2020 #20
Realism is looking at HIV....No vaccine in 39 years... pbmus Apr 2020 #33
There's a bit more to the story than that DarthDem Apr 2020 #45
Yes.... pbmus Apr 2020 #47
Not analogous either DarthDem Apr 2020 #48
Interesting you say that when Jeff from Amazon wants one pbmus Apr 2020 #49
No DarthDem Apr 2020 #52
'There's no such evidence ' pbmus Apr 2020 #56
No DarthDem Apr 2020 #59
Obviously the answer is to open all businesses immediately Orrex Apr 2020 #14
He did his best work with The Foo Fighters Orrex Apr 2020 #18
Wrong band. You're thinking of Jane's Addiction. Initech Apr 2020 #34
Dammit! Orrex Apr 2020 #40
The article headline doesn't fit at all with the story DrToast Apr 2020 #35
I don't think the headline is deceptive. He's saying not to count on an effective vaccine pnwmom Apr 2020 #36
I am glad the WHO is dropping some hard truths about grim possibilities Blasphemer Apr 2020 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #39
I think that is the wrong conclusion to take from that article, MineralMan Apr 2020 #41
There is continuing work being done around the world . The below artlce Kathy M Apr 2020 #42
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