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LovingA2andMI

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Thu Sep 3, 2020, 06:11 PM Sep 2020

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are 'Losers' and 'Suckers' [View all]

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Source: The Atlantic

When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

Belleau Wood is a consequential battle in American history, and the ground on which it was fought is venerated by the Marine Corps. America and its allies stopped the German advance toward Paris there in the spring of 1918. But Trump, on that same trip, asked aides, “Who were the good guys in this war?” He also said that he didn’t understand why the United States would intervene on the side of the Allies.

Trump’s understanding of concepts such as patriotism, service, and sacrifice have interested me since he expressed contempt for the war record of the late Senator John McCain, who spent more than five years as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese. “He’s not a war hero,” Trump said in 2015 while running for the Republican nomination for president. “I like people who weren’t captured.”

There was no precedent in American politics for the expression of this sort of contempt, but the performatively patriotic Trump did no damage to his candidacy by attacking McCain in this manner. Nor did he set his campaign back by attacking the parents of Humayun Khan, an Army captain who was killed in Iraq in 2004.

Trump remained fixated on McCain, one of the few prominent Republicans to continue criticizing him after he won the nomination. When McCain died, in August 2018, Trump told his senior staff, according to three sources with direct knowledge of this event, “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,” and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. “What the fuck are we doing that for? Guy was a fucking loser,” the president told aides. Trump was not invited to McCain’s funeral. (These sources, and others quoted in this article, spoke on condition of anonymity. The White House did not return earlier calls for comment, but Alyssa Farah, a White House spokesperson, emailed me this statement shortly after this story was posted: “This report is false. President Trump holds the military in the highest regard. He’s demonstrated his commitment to them at every turn: delivering on his promise to give our troops a much needed pay raise, increasing military spending, signing critical veterans reforms, and supporting military spouses. This has no basis in fact.”)

Read more: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/



WOW, just WOW. He...MUST...GO!!!
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Joe Biden should make this into a commercial. madaboutharry Sep 2020 #1
The Lincoln Project kinds has - soldierant Sep 2020 #36
This needs to be tacked to the door of every VFW in this country. Zoonart Sep 2020 #2
Yepper spot on................ turbinetree Sep 2020 #9
How could ANYONE say such a thing Blue Owl Sep 2020 #3
Trump is a pox on America. Unfortunately, we can never erase KPN Sep 2020 #4
It's true..... Yorkist Sep 2020 #39
Joe Biden, Lincoln Project, VoteVets. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2020 #5
Fuck trump gopiscrap Sep 2020 #6
Would that someone had recordings and/or footage of his insults against the troops sandensea Sep 2020 #7
Our"Commander in Chief." Bah. Faygo Kid Sep 2020 #8
He WILL Go Drome Sep 2020 #10
Cadet Bonespurs says what?? I don't care Do U? Actually, he is a pathetic excuse for POTUS. Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #11
There is only ONE LOSER in 2020.... AZ8theist Sep 2020 #12
Yay! BigOleDummy Sep 2020 #17
RANT ON/ By definition anyone who lies, cheats, steals to "win", are in fact LOSERS. not_the_one Sep 2020 #13
Trump is a lowlife. Beacool Sep 2020 #14
After all of the shit the Orange Asshole has done and said, I did not think he could shock me. TruckFump Sep 2020 #15
'From Belleau Wood, to John Kelly's fallen son, to calling John McCain a "fucking loser" to shunning riversedge Sep 2020 #16
POW/MIA Aerator Sep 2020 #18
Trump is disgusting! LiberalFighter Sep 2020 #19
What's so sick is his supporters will either not hear or care what he said kimbutgar Sep 2020 #20
very sick group of americans that support Trump mdbl Sep 2020 #23
Biden is ahead in military support nt IronLionZion Sep 2020 #28
The biggest piece of shit on the planet. OverBurn Sep 2020 #21
WOW, I mean, just WOW DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #22
Where is the VFW? bluestarone Sep 2020 #24
Dementia. mac56 Sep 2020 #25
Trump proves again and again he's a POS. sakabatou Sep 2020 #26
Eventually, he's going to wear a uniform. And it will be orange. nt Xipe Totec Sep 2020 #27
He's a piece of excrement... paleotn Sep 2020 #29
Arrggg!!! Beyond disgraceful! electric_blue68 Sep 2020 #30
I think my blood is boiling right now. mommymarine2003 Sep 2020 #31
Spread this far and wide. dalton99a Sep 2020 #32
What a despicable piece of shit. SergeStorms Sep 2020 #33
I had a relative that fought in the battle of Chateau Thierry PatrickforO Sep 2020 #34
Drumpf doesn't care about our troops. BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #35
Is this the stupidest thing Donald Trump has ever said???I don't know...what do you think? Stuart G Sep 2020 #37
Any member of the military who votes for Dementia Donnie after this area51 Sep 2020 #38
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