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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Sounds Alarm on a Trump 'Nightmare Scenario' [View all]Hassin Bin Sober
(27,429 posts)38. What other battle ground states have Republican legislatures?
What other battleground states might have a red mirage on election night and the days/week after?
Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida off the top of my head.
This Law Journal article spells out a couple scenarios. It was written before COVID so mail ballots are much more important.
It reads like a horror novel
They lay out several scenarios. One scenario is a state with a Republican run legislature, like Pennsylvania, could certify a different set of results based on Trumps call to arms. This could send conflicting Elector counts to The Senate President. Mike Pence could conceivably be the arbiter of what Elector count to accept
Preparing for a Disputed Presidential Election: An Exercise in Election Risk Assessment and Management
Loyola University Chicago Law Journal
Volume 51
Issue 2 Winter 2019
https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2719&context=luclj
This Article considers the possibility that a major dispute over the outcome of the 2020 presidential election could arise, even without foreign interference or some other extraordinary event, but rather just from the ordinary process of counting ballots. Building upon previous research on the blue shift phenomenon, whereby adjustments in vote tallies during the canvassing of returns tends to advantage Democratic candidates, it is easy to imagine a dispute arising if this kind of blue shift were consequential in the presidential race. Using examples from both Pennsylvania and Arizona, two states susceptible to significant blue shifts in previous elections, the article shows how the dispute could reach Congress, where it potentially might metastasize into a full-fledged constitutional crisis. The most frightening scenario is where the dispute remains unresolved on January 20, 2021, the date for the inauguration of the new presidential term, and the military is uncertain as to who is entitled to receive the nuclear codes as commander-in-chief. In order to avoid this risk, Congress should amend the relevant statute, 3 U.S.C. § 15.
Loyola University Chicago Law Journal
Volume 51
Issue 2 Winter 2019
https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2719&context=luclj
This Article considers the possibility that a major dispute over the outcome of the 2020 presidential election could arise, even without foreign interference or some other extraordinary event, but rather just from the ordinary process of counting ballots. Building upon previous research on the blue shift phenomenon, whereby adjustments in vote tallies during the canvassing of returns tends to advantage Democratic candidates, it is easy to imagine a dispute arising if this kind of blue shift were consequential in the presidential race. Using examples from both Pennsylvania and Arizona, two states susceptible to significant blue shifts in previous elections, the article shows how the dispute could reach Congress, where it potentially might metastasize into a full-fledged constitutional crisis. The most frightening scenario is where the dispute remains unresolved on January 20, 2021, the date for the inauguration of the new presidential term, and the military is uncertain as to who is entitled to receive the nuclear codes as commander-in-chief. In order to avoid this risk, Congress should amend the relevant statute, 3 U.S.C. § 15.
AXIOS piece on potential blue shit in this election.
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The best antidote against the "unthinkable" is to GOTV, and win significantly so there won't be
still_one
Sep 2020
#1
and continuing to do nothing about the 1500 radio stations that will be echoing trump
certainot
Sep 2020
#19
This is the issue that is screwing up this country in ways that we may not be able to reverse course
BComplex
Sep 2020
#45
at $1000/hr 1200 stns x 15 hrs/day is worth about $90M/week FREE anti biden and yet
certainot
Sep 2020
#53
Smart defense to have him as a focal point on this critical issue. Prevent more slippery slope
JudyM
Sep 2020
#3
We need him in Washington to perform his duties as Senator. Biden is our candidate.
George II
Sep 2020
#13
Except he's out there with a different message than our Candidate and somewhat different....
George II
Sep 2020
#17
Correct me if I am wrong, but he is a senator. I don't think that him missing votes will have made
LiberalArkie
Sep 2020
#28
Right. I don't think it's helpful for a prominent Democrat to be out there saying trump might win.
George II
Sep 2020
#22
What useful purpose does it serve? It's just another example of how people are oddly willing to...
NurseJackie
Sep 2020
#42
I hate to urge people to vote in person, but it's really important in swing states.
Lonestarblue
Sep 2020
#10
Thanks. Yes, there is totally a process to document and track incoming absentee ballots.
klook
Sep 2020
#60
Even after everything you have seen in the last four years you are still so certain?
mikelgb
Sep 2020
#30