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61. Very good analysis

Sat Mar 13, 2021, 09:54 AM

Mar 2021

I can definitely see this scenario.

But, since they are representing the Gov in managing lower level staff, then I want them held responsible. They don’t get to hide.

I am a 66 year old female who has also faced sexual harassment (minor) and age discrimination (major).

I want to believe the accusers, but they needed to speak up sooner than this.

A note to anyone who is being harassed: if you are too afraid to step forward now, then tell someone in private. Document it. Dates, times, etc. Notarize it. File it. You can’t wait years and years and then try to make it part of a current discourse with just vague accusations.

Better yet, come forward when it happens. With the #Metoo movement, you should be safer now.

Sorry, just on a rant right now.
Yea, Cuomo is a classic macho bully. But, put me in the “investigation before demonization” category.

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Female Cuomo staffers say they were pressured to wear makeup, heels, and dresses to please the gover [View all] Polybius Mar 2021 OP

So he never told them but they all agreed and went along with it ? And this wasn't before the 1990s JI7 Mar 2021 #1

The NYT said they got these reports from both current and former employees. pnwmom Mar 2021 #2

And why did they go along with it ? Seems like they were all competing for his approval JI7 Mar 2021 #4

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? Because they needed their damn jobs, pnwmom Mar 2021 #5

So they no longer need the jobs ? JI7 Mar 2021 #6

What are you saying? It sure sounds like victim blaming. pnwmom Mar 2021 #7

All of this shit happened in recent years. I have a problem with them all going along with the shit JI7 Mar 2021 #9

Guys seem to have no idea how common this is. If women didn't go along with it, pnwmom Mar 2021 #11

I'm not a guy. I am a woman and deal with shitty guys all the time JI7 Mar 2021 #15

It can take time to process abuse. Woman #7, for example. pnwmom Mar 2021 #19

Why doesn't the employee want to file a police report ? JI7 Mar 2021 #20

I would guess women don't want to file a police report Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #56

Are they claiming to have been victimized ? Because nothing I read JI7 Mar 2021 #57

As a victim of child sexual abuse who did not file a report Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #71

There were no claims of assault here JI7 Mar 2021 #78

Again, Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #84

Fondling a woman under her blouse, without her consent, IS assault. pnwmom Mar 2021 #108

I am so sorry this happened to you! n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #107

Thank you for your kind words Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #112

I know a young woman who was molested. The scars are still with her. pnwmom Mar 2021 #113

Disparity in power due to age, Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #117

Thank you so much for sharing this. I hope you've opened some eyes with this post. pnwmom Mar 2021 #118

Then you must not think that it's victimizing an employee pnwmom Mar 2021 #106

Absolutely! Thank you for understanding. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #105

Most likely she doesn't want to be the center of attention, pnwmom Mar 2021 #104

Can we assume that? treestar Mar 2021 #120

Many people who have potential EEOC claims don't have the means and/or the inclination pnwmom Mar 2021 #121

They are saying something now Polybius Mar 2021 #21

I have a serious problem with them going along with this JI7 Mar 2021 #23

I have an equally serious problem... Random Boomer Mar 2021 #68

There culture here was supporting Cuomo JI7 Mar 2021 #79

And this attitude is precisely the reason Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #94

I don't see any harrassment here JI7 Mar 2021 #95

You need some training on what constitutes harassment, then. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #97

I already know JI7 Mar 2021 #98

Obviously, you don't. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #100

Yes I do. Women freely deciding to wear things is not harrassment JI7 Mar 2021 #101

I've written materials used in law schools to teach Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #102

Thank you. I feel like I've been banging my head against a wall. pnwmom Mar 2021 #116

It's been extremely challenging here - Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #123

It's killing me, Ms. Toad. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #110

With them going along with this? You are providing a textbook example in victim blaming. pnwmom Mar 2021 #109

I worked w/ a male shift lead who would do standing pelvic thrusts near the heads of seated guys. moriah Mar 2021 #88

But this wasn't the same JI7 Mar 2021 #91

Wrong. There are multiple reports of Cuomo telling women how he wanted them to look. pnwmom Mar 2021 #111

Yes, this is victim blaiming Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #54

you're really off on the wrong track here stopdiggin Mar 2021 #8

I certainly would have shut it down by telling him to fuck off and wear heels and dye his hair blond JI7 Mar 2021 #10

Goodie goodie gum drops. Aren't you special. n/t pnwmom Mar 2021 #12

Yes, I certainly wouldn't have told other women to dress certain ways because some asshole likes it JI7 Mar 2021 #16

People don't "need" to stop making their points treestar Mar 2021 #122

I agree. pobably a better way of handling it. thanks. stopdiggin Mar 2021 #124

Then what is their problem. They Polly Hennessey Mar 2021 #36

No, one cannot always find another GOOD job -- especially if your abuser pnwmom Mar 2021 #115

Thank you pnwmom for fighting back against the victim blamers Cassidy Mar 2021 #43

+1 spooky3 Mar 2021 #67

Thank you, as well. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #96

Thank you for your post. I feel like I'm swimming against the tide on this issue, pnwmom Mar 2021 #114

+1 million Budi Mar 2021 #31

Are you a female? This stuff happens to women ... secondwind Mar 2021 #44

Yes I'm a woman and I would not encourage that type of culture. I have with similar issues JI7 Mar 2021 #45

That it is still happening makes it worse, not better. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #99

Surely you are aware of the concept of "power differential"? Maybe you don't intend this, but artemisia1 Mar 2021 #92

What victims ? This article was women that decided to dress certain ways JI7 Mar 2021 #93

I don't understand... ahoysrcsm Mar 2021 #103

I worked at a bank with dress codes like that. LakeArenal Mar 2021 #3

My sister works at a bank. Her bank doesn't have a dress code pnwmom Mar 2021 #13

I use two banks and one has a dress code such as dress slacks and jackets for the men and the cstanleytech Mar 2021 #29

there ARE dress codes in lots of places stopdiggin Mar 2021 #14

All dress codes are at someone's demand. LakeArenal Mar 2021 #28

Generally the boss sets the dress code for every place where they are the boss. That is not exactly cstanleytech Mar 2021 #30

I think Heels are unreasonable . Dress shoes are not unreasonable and there are many styles JI7 Mar 2021 #34

"I think Heels are unreasonable." From a purely comfort level I agree with you as I have cstanleytech Mar 2021 #38

that's an over simplification stopdiggin Mar 2021 #47

Maybe I missed it but I do not see in the article where it said they should ""show a little fanny.". cstanleytech Mar 2021 #48

the 'fanny' line was an illustration of what ISN'T stopdiggin Mar 2021 #76

If the men were being asked to dress professionally in cstanleytech Mar 2021 #89

I would like to know if he made comments to men, too torius Mar 2021 #17

Wow Snackshack Mar 2021 #18

Do women have to wear heels at Delta? speak easy Mar 2021 #62

Flight attendants do, at least while going to the plane jmowreader Mar 2021 #90

Do male staffers feel they have to wear suits, ties, get haircuts, shave, have polished shoes? Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #22

THe "general understanding" was they were all about their own power JI7 Mar 2021 #24

Are you saying that a dress code for professional men would be bad? Grasswire2 Mar 2021 #25

There always has been one. elleng Mar 2021 #27

If the dress code required men to dress in ways intended to be spooky3 Mar 2021 #33

To be fair rules regarding what to wear for the workplace are not new and yes those can include cstanleytech Mar 2021 #26

Dearie, dearie me. There was a dress code in the State Governor's office? How ghastly... Hekate Mar 2021 #32

well said Grasswire2 Mar 2021 #35

If you read all of the NYT and New Yorker articles, I think spooky3 Mar 2021 #37

The New York Magazine article was also eye-opening. demmiblue Mar 2021 #74

Thanks for that link. Nt spooky3 Mar 2021 #75

Well true in that place of business though the whole spandex thing might well be a requirement cstanleytech Mar 2021 #39

Exactly. It's no surprise you can't wear shorts and flip flops Nixie Mar 2021 #58

Um, CORPORATE policy for a company I worked for in 2001-09 was only skirts for women crimycarny Mar 2021 #40

Dang, I hate to imagine how it feels to wear a dress when it gets that cold. cstanleytech Mar 2021 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author crimycarny Mar 2021 #41

I've heard my local weather girl comment bamagal62 Mar 2021 #46

"He deserves an investigation." An investigation is a must to find out if its true or if its not. cstanleytech Mar 2021 #49

If he did everything he was accused of spooky3 Mar 2021 #70

The fact that he's a crappy boss Sgent Mar 2021 #87

Due process is important. Fair is fair. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #50

Dress to impress remains good advice bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #51

The piling on is making the original complaint fade into the background. Vinca Mar 2021 #52

Okay. True story time. I worked for a major tech company for 30 years. sinkingfeeling Mar 2021 #53

So he belongs on the Supreme Court like Kavanaugh? Freethinker65 Mar 2021 #55

This. Like I said, bamagal62 Mar 2021 #125

Glad there will be an investigation Karma13612 Mar 2021 #59

Jmho, but Cuomo is the kind of boss who Deminpenn Mar 2021 #60

Very good analysis Karma13612 Mar 2021 #61

Right there with you Deminpenn Mar 2021 #63

Yup!!.. nt Karma13612 Mar 2021 #65

It seems like Cuomo Turbineguy Mar 2021 #64

:-) I need one of those STFU angels sometimes! spooky3 Mar 2021 #66

Very Kavanaugh-esque. He had the same rules and preferences for female law clerks Blasphemer Mar 2021 #69

Cuomo's dress code for working in state capitol offices maliaSmith Mar 2021 #72

Welcome to DU!! StevieM Mar 2021 #73

Here is the problem, there is nothing where anyone says Cuomo JI7 Mar 2021 #86

Also this article doesn't say anything about Cuomo himself JI7 Mar 2021 #80

Hillary Clinton would probably have some things to say about that dress code (if it is true). demmiblue Mar 2021 #77

By the way, how's Gov Abbott doing with all his dead people? And Gov de Santis? Hekate Mar 2021 #81

Investigate, but it's not looking good. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #82

If Cuomo were Republican twodogsbarking Mar 2021 #83

I remember someone on DU giving Kavanaugh the benefit of doubt Polybius Mar 2021 #126

Not going to take sides other than to say this: Aussie105 Mar 2021 #85

Everyone does that treestar Mar 2021 #119

+1 ancianita Mar 2021 #127