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BumRushDaShow

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35. As a related sidenote to that Article/Section/Clause
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:25 AM
Mar 2021

When President Obama attempted to do a Recess appointment of several positions - notably head of the CFPB and a couple NLRB members - because the argument was that despite the Senate doing "Pro-forma" sessions (gaveling in every 3 days and then eventually adjourning subject to the call of the chair within about 5 minutes after the benediction & pledge of allegiance), that they really weren't "in session" doing any legislating (no one was ever there), so they were basically "in recess".

Well the GOP had a fit (anything to thwart Obama), sued, and it went all the way to the SCOTUS (National Labor Relations Board v. Noel Canning) - which unanimously ruled against Obama (although with slightly differing opinions about the details) -

Supreme Court rebukes Obama on recess appointments

By Robert Barnes
June 26, 2014

The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday that President Obama exceeded his constitutional authority in making high-level government appointments in 2012 when he declared the Senate to be in recess and unable to act on the nominations. Obama made appointments to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) at a time when the Senate was holding pro forma sessions every three days precisely to thwart the president’s ability to exercise the power.

“The Senate is in session when it says it is,” Justice Stephen G. Breyer wrote for the court, stressing that if the Senate is able to conduct business, that is enough to keep the president from making recess appointments.

(snip)

The justices employed Founding-era documents and the long history of recess appointments — there have been thousands of them — to interpret the Constitution’s Recess Clause. It says the president “shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate.”

(snip)

It was the question of pro forma sessions that had prompted the case. Senate Democrats started such sessions in 2007 to prevent President George W. Bush from making recess appointments. Despite encouragement from his advisers to challenge the legitimacy of the sessions, he declined.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-rebukes-obama-on-recess-appointments/2014/06/26/e5e4fefa-e831-11e3-a86b-362fd5443d19_story.html


In Shrub's case, I believe it was due to installing Bolton as the U.S. Representative to the U.N. via a Recess Appointment (which is temporary until the end of a Congressional session) and that atrocity prompted the then-Democratic-controlled Senate to institute the "Pro-forma" sessions via a Rule, and that Rule has remained ever since. Anyone who is a CSPAN junky can watch those brief "sessions" on CSPAN2 when the Senate is "away" (including during extended holidays or "District work periods" ) where someone volunteers (often the local and/or close-by members) to gavel them in briefly, go through the motions of "Morning Business", and then go into recess "Subject to the Call of the Chair".

Basically, the Senate made its own "Rules" (allowance for "Pro-forma" sessions) and defined what that meant (every 3 days, since there is a mention in the Constitution in that same Article 1/Section 5 with that time frame, and that is what they used) -

Article I

(snip)

Section 5.

(snip)

Neither House, during the session of Congress, shall, without the consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei

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This dim bulb owns a GD gun store. CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #1
I'm concerned... robleb Mar 2021 #11
I THOUGHT THAT, TOO! CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #15
Cranially, at the least. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #25
He is so dim that he hasn't got a clue....says Stu... Stuart G Mar 2021 #13
What a stooge... AZ8theist Mar 2021 #16
With all respect, if you're going to mock Moran Man Lord Ludd Mar 2021 #22
Ooops! Thanks...didn't notice that!! AZ8theist Mar 2021 #23
Not to mention "its' " catrose Mar 2021 #27
Confused... Wuddles440 Mar 2021 #42
AZ8's original post used "it's" /nt Lord Ludd Mar 2021 #44
Suspected that may have been the case. Wuddles440 Mar 2021 #47
Thank gawd you got right on that. It was traumatic for some of us. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2021 #51
Always glad to provide relief if I can. Lord Ludd Mar 2021 #52
They passed a rule. That's the rule. soothsayer Mar 2021 #2
Some people don't understand how democracy works Major Nikon Mar 2021 #29
Good luck nimrod- even SCOTUS doesn't have jurisdiction over congressional procedures Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #3
What an absolute asshole. And proud of it. Next time, cuff and stuff his ass. Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #4
So I suspect taxpayers ( you and me) will pay his lawyers rurallib Mar 2021 #5
That's the point, he hasn't any. He's a republican...His whole existence is based on using your tax Ford_Prefect Mar 2021 #6
Eat my Grits Clyde. Tommymac Mar 2021 #7
Oh good! I won't have to go thru metal detectors anymore. JohnnyRingo Mar 2021 #8
The courts are absolutely not going to be involved WhiteTara Mar 2021 #9
Pretty certain the House could pass a rule that Republicans must bow to the Speaker upon entering MichMan Mar 2021 #37
He might as well try to sue God for raining on his picnic. patphil Mar 2021 #10
The Democratic Reps should all enter a class action suit against Andrew Clyde FakeNoose Mar 2021 #12
The article has an incorrect statement. The rule wasn't passed by "House Democrats", it was passed.. George II Mar 2021 #14
Newsweek should retract statement. That's a blatant error. elias7 Mar 2021 #46
His skidmarks are smarter than he is. Talitha Mar 2021 #17
U.S. CONSTITUTION BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #18
Glad to take his $15,000. Eleven more trips and the taxpayers will recover his yearly salary. usaf-vet Mar 2021 #32
As a related sidenote to that Article/Section/Clause BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #35
I'm pretty sure that the Congressman spent $15K for naught, as pointed out with icing on the cake. usaf-vet Mar 2021 #36
I'm glad his ass is getting his salary docked! BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #39
We all should wonder about the intelligence of some of the voters in this country. usaf-vet Mar 2021 #41
Yes! Take-His-Money! Geez, what a dumbshit. Even if this somehow makes it to the... machoneman Mar 2021 #43
They should pass a rule that all Republicans have to donate $$ to the DNC every day upon entering MichMan Mar 2021 #38
They are probably already claiming the fines are going directly to the DNC as their latest "CT". BumRushDaShow Mar 2021 #40
The only part of the Constitution that this smuck can recite is the Second Amendment, LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2021 #19
... marble falls Mar 2021 #20
Indeed George McGovern Mar 2021 #21
Doesn't Article I Give Each House the Right to Govern Itself...? The_Counsel Mar 2021 #24
Apparently, the Constitution isn't allowing you to get on airplanes with a gun. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #26
Courts have little to no say in how the House conducts its internal business. cstanleytech Mar 2021 #28
$15,000? Ouch. That's "gun" a hurt. Dumb ass. C Moon Mar 2021 #30
"Stand up for the Constitution" - the latest BS Republican meme elias7 Mar 2021 #31
Fine him and suspend him for the day. $15k is pocket change for some grifters. Marcuse Mar 2021 #33
"People have to stand for the Constitution." The stupid is strong with this one Obie Wan Kanbe. Botany Mar 2021 #34
Clyde's district is next to Marjorie Taylor Greene's and UGADawg Mar 2021 #45
Guess he'll fuck around and find out. ancianita Mar 2021 #48
There aren't any nice things I want to happen to him. LiberalFighter Mar 2021 #49
A great target for the Space Lasers! Aussie105 Mar 2021 #50
Expel the asshole...seriously strip of his committee assignments......... turbinetree Mar 2021 #53
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