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In reply to the discussion: Suing Nancy Pelosi Was Reason for Sidestepping House Metal Detectors, Says GOP's Andrew Clyde [View all]BumRushDaShow
(166,263 posts)35. As a related sidenote to that Article/Section/Clause
When President Obama attempted to do a Recess appointment of several positions - notably head of the CFPB and a couple NLRB members - because the argument was that despite the Senate doing "Pro-forma" sessions (gaveling in every 3 days and then eventually adjourning subject to the call of the chair within about 5 minutes after the benediction & pledge of allegiance), that they really weren't "in session" doing any legislating (no one was ever there), so they were basically "in recess".
Well the GOP had a fit (anything to thwart Obama), sued, and it went all the way to the SCOTUS (National Labor Relations Board v. Noel Canning) - which unanimously ruled against Obama (although with slightly differing opinions about the details) -
Supreme Court rebukes Obama on recess appointments
By Robert Barnes
June 26, 2014
The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday that President Obama exceeded his constitutional authority in making high-level government appointments in 2012 when he declared the Senate to be in recess and unable to act on the nominations. Obama made appointments to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) at a time when the Senate was holding pro forma sessions every three days precisely to thwart the presidents ability to exercise the power.
The Senate is in session when it says it is, Justice Stephen G. Breyer wrote for the court, stressing that if the Senate is able to conduct business, that is enough to keep the president from making recess appointments.
(snip)
The justices employed Founding-era documents and the long history of recess appointments there have been thousands of them to interpret the Constitutions Recess Clause. It says the president shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate.
(snip)
It was the question of pro forma sessions that had prompted the case. Senate Democrats started such sessions in 2007 to prevent President George W. Bush from making recess appointments. Despite encouragement from his advisers to challenge the legitimacy of the sessions, he declined.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-rebukes-obama-on-recess-appointments/2014/06/26/e5e4fefa-e831-11e3-a86b-362fd5443d19_story.html
By Robert Barnes
June 26, 2014
The Supreme Court ruled unanimously Thursday that President Obama exceeded his constitutional authority in making high-level government appointments in 2012 when he declared the Senate to be in recess and unable to act on the nominations. Obama made appointments to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) at a time when the Senate was holding pro forma sessions every three days precisely to thwart the presidents ability to exercise the power.
The Senate is in session when it says it is, Justice Stephen G. Breyer wrote for the court, stressing that if the Senate is able to conduct business, that is enough to keep the president from making recess appointments.
(snip)
The justices employed Founding-era documents and the long history of recess appointments there have been thousands of them to interpret the Constitutions Recess Clause. It says the president shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate.
(snip)
It was the question of pro forma sessions that had prompted the case. Senate Democrats started such sessions in 2007 to prevent President George W. Bush from making recess appointments. Despite encouragement from his advisers to challenge the legitimacy of the sessions, he declined.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-rebukes-obama-on-recess-appointments/2014/06/26/e5e4fefa-e831-11e3-a86b-362fd5443d19_story.html
In Shrub's case, I believe it was due to installing Bolton as the U.S. Representative to the U.N. via a Recess Appointment (which is temporary until the end of a Congressional session) and that atrocity prompted the then-Democratic-controlled Senate to institute the "Pro-forma" sessions via a Rule, and that Rule has remained ever since. Anyone who is a CSPAN junky can watch those brief "sessions" on CSPAN2 when the Senate is "away" (including during extended holidays or "District work periods" ) where someone volunteers (often the local and/or close-by members) to gavel them in briefly, go through the motions of "Morning Business", and then go into recess "Subject to the Call of the Chair".
Basically, the Senate made its own "Rules" (allowance for "Pro-forma" sessions) and defined what that meant (every 3 days, since there is a mention in the Constitution in that same Article 1/Section 5 with that time frame, and that is what they used) -
Article I
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Section 5.
(snip)
Neither House, during the session of Congress, shall, without the consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei
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Section 5.
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Neither House, during the session of Congress, shall, without the consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei
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Suing Nancy Pelosi Was Reason for Sidestepping House Metal Detectors, Says GOP's Andrew Clyde [View all]
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Mar 2021
OP
Good luck nimrod- even SCOTUS doesn't have jurisdiction over congressional procedures
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 2021
#3
What an absolute asshole. And proud of it. Next time, cuff and stuff his ass.
Evolve Dammit
Mar 2021
#4
That's the point, he hasn't any. He's a republican...His whole existence is based on using your tax
Ford_Prefect
Mar 2021
#6
Pretty certain the House could pass a rule that Republicans must bow to the Speaker upon entering
MichMan
Mar 2021
#37
The Democratic Reps should all enter a class action suit against Andrew Clyde
FakeNoose
Mar 2021
#12
The article has an incorrect statement. The rule wasn't passed by "House Democrats", it was passed..
George II
Mar 2021
#14
Glad to take his $15,000. Eleven more trips and the taxpayers will recover his yearly salary.
usaf-vet
Mar 2021
#32
I'm pretty sure that the Congressman spent $15K for naught, as pointed out with icing on the cake.
usaf-vet
Mar 2021
#36
We all should wonder about the intelligence of some of the voters in this country.
usaf-vet
Mar 2021
#41
Yes! Take-His-Money! Geez, what a dumbshit. Even if this somehow makes it to the...
machoneman
Mar 2021
#43
They should pass a rule that all Republicans have to donate $$ to the DNC every day upon entering
MichMan
Mar 2021
#38
They are probably already claiming the fines are going directly to the DNC as their latest "CT".
BumRushDaShow
Mar 2021
#40
The only part of the Constitution that this smuck can recite is the Second Amendment,
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
Mar 2021
#19
Apparently, the Constitution isn't allowing you to get on airplanes with a gun.
BobTheSubgenius
Mar 2021
#26
Courts have little to no say in how the House conducts its internal business.
cstanleytech
Mar 2021
#28