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In reply to the discussion: Grizzly bear kills guide just outside Yellowstone National Park [View all]shrike3
(5,370 posts)48. I am hardly well acquainted with these situations.
But it sounds like was caught unawares.
The tragedy that pulled heartstrings and stoked emotions in Jackson Hole and well beyond stemmed from a raghorn bull elk that Chubons crossbow hit with a poor shot on a Thursday afternoon in mid-September. Uptain, an experienced guide for Martin Outfitters, was with his hunter on Terrace Mountain, a broad peak thats 6 air miles from the Turpin Meadow trailhead. Uptain and Chubon couldnt find the elk, but they returned the next afternoon to where it was hit and then found a large blood trail. They followed it into a patch of timber and around 1 p.m. discovered the undisturbed carcass.
It was a warm day peaking at 73 degrees in nearby Moran and while field dressing the elk Uptain removed his shirt and left it and his black nylon shoulder strap holding a Glock 10-millimeter handgun 5 or 10 yards uphill of the carcass. A canister of bear spray was slung from a hip holster on Uptains left side, but Chubons bear spray was left in his pack because it had become cumbersome carrying it on the horse, he told investigators.
Uptain was removing the bulls head, with Chubon nearby, when they heard a sound of rocks tumbling, presaging the attack.
Mr. Chubon stated he looked up and saw two grizzly bears running full speed directly toward them, Game Warden Jon Stephens wrote after interviewing the surviving client.
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"Because bear acts like a bear, he must die." - most bears don't attack humans. n/t
PoliticAverse
Apr 2021
#1
So they were supposed to just stand there and let the bear attack them also?
MarineCombatEngineer
Apr 2021
#13
A charge is generally a warning sign to get the hell away. Most animals attack as a last resort.
Coventina
Apr 2021
#18
How about we transport the bear and the carcass to where you live and work?
alphafemale
Apr 2021
#42
Yeah, I thought they try not to kill if there is an "excuse" for the attack.
Hassin Bin Sober
Apr 2021
#67
It's not clear from what's here, but sounds like they discovered the excuse for the attack
ToxMarz
Apr 2021
#81
You gotta be kidding. So motive must be taken into account? Maybe have a trial?
Dream Girl
Apr 2021
#12
I'm always going to take the side of the animal. Always. We are in THEIR territory.
Coventina
Apr 2021
#8
As I posted elsewhere, smart humans know that if they are in bear territory, they are not top dog.
Coventina
Apr 2021
#36
Humans are animals also. The person that was killed was in THEIR terrirory as well.
PoliticAverse
Apr 2021
#16
If you are looking for natural balances which we have altered the prime place for that is in cities
PoliticAverse
Apr 2021
#29
Bear attacks are relatively rare. This one was instigated because of a specific trigger: food.
Coventina
Apr 2021
#31
He should have allowed the beat who's already killed another person in an unprovoked attack to
Dream Girl
Apr 2021
#17
We need to cut the human population drastically. And reduce the size of our cities.
Coventina
Apr 2021
#68
If you think morality is a human construct then you don't truly understand evolution. n/t
Coventina
Apr 2021
#80
I'm not in favor of bears attacking humans, I should probably make that clear.
Coventina
Apr 2021
#28
"The bear always dies when humans are careless." Which is why I take the position I take.
Coventina
Apr 2021
#45
another who supports the bear here. We really don't understand nature well at all.
NewHendoLib
Apr 2021
#55
Much of nature is trying to kill us. From tiny viruses to large mamals. n/t
PoliticAverse
Apr 2021
#62
and we bring it on ourselves, in my opinion. WE are a highly flawed species.
NewHendoLib
Apr 2021
#66
He hadn't lost his fear of humans. He was AFRAID the humans were after his food.
Coventina
Apr 2021
#73