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UpInArms

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103. Update: All suspects in custody after armed standoff with police shuts down part of I-95 in Mass.
Sat Jul 3, 2021, 12:07 PM
Jul 2021
https://www.pressherald.com/2021/07/03/armed-standoff-with-police-shuts-down-part-of-i-95/

Eleven men were clad in military-style gear with long guns and pistols, Mass State Police Col. Christopher Mason said. He added that they were headed to Maine from Rhode Island for “training.”

The men refused to put down their weapons or comply with authorities’ orders, claiming to be from a group “that does not recognize our laws,” police said. They took off into a wooded area, where two men were initially arrested.

The remaining men were taken into custody around 10:30 a.m.

… snip …

“I think the investigation that follows from this interaction will provide us more insight into what their motivation, what their ideology is,” Mason said.

Mason said he had no knowledge of the group, but it was not unusual for the state police to encounter people who have “sovereign citizen ideology,” although he did not know if the people involved in the Wakefield standoff was a part of that.
Freedumb jpak Jul 2021 #1
Congress should pass a law revoking such people's citizenship nuxvomica Jul 2021 #2
+1 K&R onetexan Jul 2021 #6
There you go, that's the perfect solution FakeNoose Jul 2021 #10
I agree. Philip Nolan the shit out of them. RVN VET71 Jul 2021 #12
Yes. My thoughts exactly. n/t Mister Ed Jul 2021 #15
That was what popped in my head PatSeg Jul 2021 #35
Or, Better Yet smb Jul 2021 #94
I would swap them for Honduran refugees DBoon Jul 2021 #20
My thoughts exactly mjvpi Jul 2021 #37
A perfect use for GITMO Historic NY Jul 2021 #70
As long as they pay the give up citizenship taxes. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #111
yeah and all llashram Jul 2021 #126
"that does not recognize our laws" multigraincracker Jul 2021 #3
Lord vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #4
yay. gunz. KG Jul 2021 #5
Astonishing that all the men were so disciplined that not one reached for his waistband. Girard442 Jul 2021 #7
Or they would have made furtive movements that caused the officers to piss themselves. 3Hotdogs Jul 2021 #17
Local news says they ran as soon as they were pulled over oldsoftie Jul 2021 #63
Running away from police is not a good way to avoid getting shot Merlot Jul 2021 #77
it worked for THESE guys oldsoftie Jul 2021 #112
Maybe because they were armed? Merlot Jul 2021 #139
So what are they? Maxheader Jul 2021 #8
Wet dreamers? empedocles Jul 2021 #13
Soverign citizens. 3Hotdogs Jul 2021 #19
Wonder why they weren't riddled with bullets...? griloco Jul 2021 #9
I'll once again use my psychic powers and say they were not black. :) n/t brewens Jul 2021 #11
my psychic powers tell me the same thing LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #18
If you're one cop and you're facing 8 assholes with guns, you ain't gonna escalate. 3Hotdogs Jul 2021 #21
The way I read it, t's ongoing and the cops are in contact. So yeah, maybe the first cop brewens Jul 2021 #23
Sounds about white SledDriver Jul 2021 #47
All BIPOC suspects arrested and no shots fired, still sound about white? Devil Child Jul 2021 #105
Absent that detail, yes, yes it does. SledDriver Jul 2021 #129
What's? They are african americans jimfields33 Jul 2021 #117
At this point it seems they're Moorish Sovereign Citizens. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #58
Background crom SPLC... reACTIONary Jul 2021 #83
If they're not black, they're not Moors jmowreader Jul 2021 #84
Actually, they are. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #107
It appears your psychic powers sarisataka Jul 2021 #110
Exactly, don't the police have weapons for dealing TNNurse Jul 2021 #34
Because the cops would be riddled with bullets back. kinkshame Jul 2021 #102
Then onto public officials who don't respect our laws. flor-de-jasmim Jul 2021 #14
Maybe they'll recognize the military 70sEraVet Jul 2021 #16
Send them to any country that would take them Marthe48 Jul 2021 #22
Were they headed for DC??? See this earlier DU item . . . AverageOldGuy Jul 2021 #24
plausible except for one thing NJCher Jul 2021 #90
When people have to lock their doors and shelter in place, Baitball Blogger Jul 2021 #25
These "armed and dangerous" gun nuts are still on the loose near where we live... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #26
Yes, I live less than 10 miles from the stop Tiger8 Jul 2021 #40
It's not only TLG's "Murica, it's Putin's! You do remember all that Russian cash going to the NRA? Ford_Prefect Jul 2021 #27
We just got to the USA (Boston) yesterday DFW Jul 2021 #28
Sorry for the unfortunate timing of this...oh, and for the lousy weather here in New England... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #31
We live in the German Rheinland DFW Jul 2021 #39
Yes it will get nicer...on Tuesday. We lived in Bethel bei Bielefeld in north Germany, so I know... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #43
So you need no further explanation DFW Jul 2021 #45
Misspelling corrected. Too early. Yes, Bethel was our home while my father counseled... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #57
My ancestors on my father's side came from Bielefeld in the early 19th century, (nt) Sinistrous Jul 2021 #93
Interesting. I'll bet they did not miss leaving the yucky weather behind. Mine left fleeing... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #95
Heads' up, America. Paladin Jul 2021 #29
i guess that means they don't recognize our Constitution, either. uncle ray Jul 2021 #30
Good point. They don't recognize the Second Amendment. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #67
Sounds like well, poorly executed traffic stop? bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #32
Acording to local news here, State Police stopped to assist two vehicles on the breakdown FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #41
That may well be. "Shelter in place" makes it sound more scary than it is. bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #42
So, armed militia guys possibly moving thru your town doesn't sound scary? FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #68
Yes, that's what I thought originally bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #98
A bunch of armed fugitives desperately fleeing the cops sounds really scary to me. NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #73
I think a group of armed men running from police in my neighborhood... Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #144
I live in Massachusetts, the next town over from this... Tiger8 Jul 2021 #33
Mass is actually a purple state... getagrip_already Jul 2021 #53
Calling MA purple feels like a misnomer for 2 reasons... Tiger8 Jul 2021 #85
There is a bakery in my town that dared to sell "Pride Bagels"... getagrip_already Jul 2021 #113
It's mostly blue. Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #145
spend time outside of urban areas.... getagrip_already Jul 2021 #147
You speak Massachusetts well bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #56
Update: "Moorish American Arm" is the armed group that stopped on the highway to refuel one... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #36
Here's more: Lasher Jul 2021 #59
I Don't Recognize Them As Sane colsohlibgal Jul 2021 #38
Misfits who found a niche in society. JohnnyRingo Jul 2021 #80
More information ... UpInArms Jul 2021 #44
thanks. that's better information. stopdiggin Jul 2021 #72
If they were black ... because there is no such thing as belaboring the obvious. ancianita Jul 2021 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #46
It appears at this point that they're Moorish Sovereign Citizens. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #48
"Sovereign citizens." Such bullshit. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #50
The Moorish variety are, if anything, worse than your "typical" SC. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #52
I just read about that a few days ago, an incident where they did arrest the Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #75
theyd be the first ones to say,"go back where you came from". AllaN01Bear Jul 2021 #49
And not a single shot fired by authorities... Chicago1980 Jul 2021 #51
Um, at this point it appears that they're Moorish Sovereign Citizens. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #54
Hm... Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #87
Based upon past threads, such self correction seems rather unlikely for the most part. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #88
Yeah, I don't think I'll hold my breath while I wait. N/T Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #89
Yeah ancianita Jul 2021 #104
That's not the point I'm making here. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #109
I hear you. I get your point. ancianita Jul 2021 #122
"99% right" EX500rider Jul 2021 #121
The point was being made about people walking back conclusions here. ancianita Jul 2021 #124
"Now, maybe a link would ground your claim, right?" EX500rider Jul 2021 #127
Wow, thanks. ancianita Jul 2021 #128
Usually the case, but these were (are) eight or nine armed Black men in two cars in the FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #60
Find them & dispatch them quickly oldsoftie Jul 2021 #66
lol Chicago1980 Jul 2021 #135
And yet they were all black and not one was hurt. Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #146
More info. about this group Quakerfriend Jul 2021 #55
Excellent info. Thanks. underpants Jul 2021 #61
Thanks for the link. Here is an excerpt, from the Southern Poverty Law Center... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #64
Now, where woud they get a confounded notion like that in their noggins? Bo Zarts Jul 2021 #62
+1 FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #65
Playing ARMY with real guns has consequences.... ashredux Jul 2021 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jul 2021 #71
How big was the group? Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jul 2021 #79
Oh I thought this was going to be about Republican congressmen. milestogo Jul 2021 #74
Sounds unamerican, like terrorism IronLionZion Jul 2021 #78
These "heavily-armed men" are black. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #81
Interesting. I'm not familiar with this group so I googled IronLionZion Jul 2021 #100
Update: 9 now in custody. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #82
Good. Only 1 Moor left. underpants Jul 2021 #91
Boooooo. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #96
👇 underpants Jul 2021 #116
Touche . . . Journeyman Jul 2021 #101
😁 underpants Jul 2021 #114
Shelter in place lifted. All in custody, after long negotiations in nearby neighborhood... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #86
Oh I thought there were 10 and there was 1 Moor left underpants Jul 2021 #92
They've all been arrested. MA has very strong gun laws - they're in deep trouble. George II Jul 2021 #99
Update: All suspects in custody after armed standoff with police shuts down part of I-95 in Mass. UpInArms Jul 2021 #103
Going to Maine, eh. I wonder if this is connected to what I read 2 wks ago about Maine being used ancianita Jul 2021 #115
While up in Maine they could visit with Tucker Carlson, but I doubt he would want this bunch... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #132
Heh heh, yeah. Well Fitzsimmons is in custody, Pohlhaus the Nazi lives in Texas, the other guy ancianita Jul 2021 #133
I know New Hampshire deals with a lot of "soviergn citizen" BS. Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #137
Give them what they want, I say SpankMe Jul 2021 #106
Who's got the M-72? malthaussen Jul 2021 #108
most people won't know what the hell that is ? monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #141
And that's what Google is for. malthaussen Jul 2021 #143
Lots of conclusions were jumped to, again sarisataka Jul 2021 #118
And will quickly justify it too. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #119
God damn Trumpers!! MenloParque Jul 2021 #120
I doubt these African American Moorish Sovereign Citizens are big Trump fans. nt EX500rider Jul 2021 #123
Let me hazard a guess sarisataka Jul 2021 #125
You are right!! MenloParque Jul 2021 #130
That is a rough wake up sarisataka Jul 2021 #131
already got over 600+ in the can & their turning on TFG .. revenge is hell ! monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #142
SWAT them. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #134
Yikes, WTF???? Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #136
The 'sovereign citizen' thing is a disease. apnu Jul 2021 #138
Yes Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #140
Update: Defendants Involved In Massachusetts Standoff In Court FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #148
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