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moniss

(9,131 posts)
13. Once again
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 04:37 PM
Nov 2021

the media does the crappiest job in the world of explaining Roe. The decision is based on the finding of a right to privacy about reproduction matters. It has long been a stated goal of the evangelical creeps to continue to try to negate privacy issues surrounding birth control/family planning once they eviscerate Roe. What is being attacked by these zealots/GQP is not just the specific act of abortion but a right to privacy. Prior to Griswold and Roe the various states were very much peeking in your bedroom window and into your doctor's office.

What has been allowed for way too long is the constant acceptance of the BS framing of the issue. Supposedly if you are against the zealots you are "Pro-Choice". That is actually a weasel phrase that centrists came up with once the push-back against Roe kicked into gear. The zealots labeled people "Pro-Abortion" and that made weak-in-the knees people run to what they thought was an "acceptable/defensible" label and the media has hammered it into boilerplate. What should have been the discussion is whether or not someone is "Pro-Privacy" or "Anti-Privacy". These zealots nor anybody else ever had any right to be digging into a woman's reproductive care/family planning. For the love of God why is it so f'ng hard for people in this country to do critical thinking? Yes that is rhetorical and I sadly do know the answers.

You cannot be "Pro-Choice" about a basic right. It is not a matter of "some can have it if they choose". You have the right of privacy about these things according to the court. Period. Argue it that way. Enough with the weasel phrasing. Once and for all America. Privacy means privacy. It means you don''t get to pry and dig about what women do in these matters. Because.......it's private!!! When somebody says we need information about how many abortions are performed and the details your response to that person should be.........."None of your business!!!!! It's private!!!!!!!". The SC said the government could have limited interest that varied by trimester. But non-government people have no right to poke into these matters. Private means what it says.
It's long past time that we uphold the foundation of Roe which is the individual right to privacy.

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I wonder what outcome Susan Sarandon is hoping for... NurseJackie Nov 2021 #1
My thoughts exactly. Not only her either, the same applies to those who encouraged others not to JohnSJ Nov 2021 #7
Never Forget LongtimeAZDem Nov 2021 #27
Gee, what a surprise. rurallib Nov 2021 #2
Well...... Bayard Nov 2021 #3
+1 peppertree Nov 2021 #4
Say goodbye to Roe yankee87 Nov 2021 #5
I sure hope Susan Collins has prepared her "concern" pearls to clutch as she defends her Comfortably_Numb Nov 2021 #6
It was much more than collins. It was those self-identified progressives who encouraged JohnSJ Nov 2021 #8
+++ agree. n/t iluvtennis Nov 2021 #9
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Nov 2021 #10
It's All Falling Into Place DallasNE Nov 2021 #11
It will be like being convicted of speeding where the limits are not posted bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #14
I've seen educated mavens who says the court will adopt a 15 Tomconroy Nov 2021 #16
I Doubt The Court Will Adopt Any Rule DallasNE Nov 2021 #19
Decided by 3 Justices wrongly seated: The Stolen One, The Drunken One, and The Rushed One bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #12
Once again moniss Nov 2021 #13
I've been saying this for years ... aggiesal Nov 2021 #17
Right moniss Nov 2021 #20
The Guardian has an interesting article today about possible impacts of overturning Roe. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #15
A lot of smart women will move to pro choice states to live and work. CTyankee Nov 2021 #18
Younger women may be able to move, but I think about the poor women in my state. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #21
I know what you are saying but people with limited means DO leave. It takes planning and help CTyankee Nov 2021 #22
Good point--and I will contribute what I can to help women in need who want to move. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #23
I am old enough to remember the days before Roe v. Wade. I never had an unwanted pregnancy due CTyankee Nov 2021 #26
Some Day Women Will Be Considered Equal Citizens... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #24
Take away a woman's control of her reproductive cycle, & you take away her control of her life. CrispyQ Nov 2021 #25
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