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davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
63. Really?
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:36 AM
Nov 2012

I'd like to see any actual evidence to back your assumption that Stein is being supported by the GOP - or that she would welcome or take advantage of such support. Nader may very well have taken GOP money - but we are not talking about Nader right now.

Your insults directed at Greens are really not necessary. You want to dislike them? Fine, fair enough - but they aren't conservative republicans. They aren't the enemy and your contempt and condescension helps our cause no more than Nader ever did.

"Hey Jill, the 60's called, and they want their tie dyed Grateful Dead tee shirt, and talking points back."

Now what does this remind me of? Oh yes, conservatives mocking liberals, calling us hippy idiots and whatnot.

Now maybe you don't care about that. Maybe you don't want the greens to support the democrats (and a lot of them do with various policies) and maybe you have your own reasons for despising them. Well, you can think and say whatever you please - but don't be surprised if this sort of attitude fails to influence anyone positively or attract support to your ideas. Most likely, what you will earn with your raging contempt is raging contempt in return.

Personally, I like greens a great deal. I love their support for the environment (generally speaking) and I think that the democratic party is big enough to include them and that we should make more of an effort to make common cause.

I admire Stein's courage and applaud her for talking about something that matters - something that matters a whole hell of a lot more than most of what our politicians talk about. I may be voting for Obama, but that doesn't give me any reason to dislike or have contempt for Stein. I may not support her Presidential campaign, but I whole-heartedly support her efforts in regards to the environment.

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It must be a day with a y in it. nt onehandle Oct 2012 #1
Thank you Ms. Stein Berlum Oct 2012 #2
Yes, she is walking the walk. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2012 #13
So, you don't use oil? Fascinating. (nt) harmonicon Oct 2012 #39
So, you don't know anyone slammed in the Global Warming Frankenstorm? Berlum Oct 2012 #52
This relates how? (nt) harmonicon Oct 2012 #54
I saw an interview with Dr. Stein SoapBox Oct 2012 #3
I know a couple voting for her marlakay Oct 2012 #4
Bravo to her for standing up to the establishment and those who pay for it. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #6
Excuse me? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #9
Cardinal Fang! Fetch... the Comfy Chair! NoOneMan Oct 2012 #12
Ohio is not "safe." Repubs will try to cheat, need to be overwhelmed w Dem votes. emulatorloo Oct 2012 #10
Prepare for the dogpile /nt Ash_F Oct 2012 #11
thank you, Ms Stein! n/t Divine Discontent Oct 2012 #7
I probably would of bought her schtick in a former life NoOneMan Oct 2012 #8
agreed. nt magical thyme Oct 2012 #15
Kudos to Jill Stein and the Green Party. bvar22 Oct 2012 #14
Good for her and she does not seem to be crying about treestar Oct 2012 #16
Oh, come on. She was arrested on purpose to gain publicity for her campaign. harmonicon Oct 2012 #40
At least she was trying to get some attention to climate change. antigone382 Oct 2012 #49
I think she was more interested in getting attention for herself. (nt) harmonicon Oct 2012 #53
Well if the one results in the other I'll take it. n/t antigone382 Oct 2012 #62
Well, good for you. n/t MattSh Nov 2012 #82
Rosa Parks? /nt Ash_F Nov 2012 #94
Cognitive dissonance? (nt) harmonicon Nov 2012 #96
It's ok to admit what you said was silly. Ash_F Nov 2012 #97
Is getting press for a presidential candidacy "the right thing"? harmonicon Nov 2012 #99
I'm pretty sure it's about the pipeline. Ash_F Nov 2012 #103
And Paul Ryan really just wanted to help out at a homeless shelter. (nt) harmonicon Nov 2012 #106
Jill Stein = Paul Ryan Ash_F Nov 2012 #112
Not a good sign when the only time you hear a presidential "candidate's" name, the word arrest..... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #17
It's an arrest for standing up for something. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #20
It's an arrest for publicity. And you can take your pseudo wannabe anarchy and vote for whomever... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #22
^^^^ The Grateful Dead ????? ^^^^^ limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #38
If this fawning shit had been posted about Romney, it would've been shut down.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #77
Why support tar sands oil, which will cause more global warming? That's a bad choice. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #78
If, as you seem to imply, Greens ideas are so popular, why aren't they? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #79
Why would you condemn idealism? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #98
You don't have her to attack her on this to support Obama Ken Burch Nov 2012 #65
You're putting in an ugly appearance in this thread. Union Scribe Nov 2012 #69
I don't talk to Green voters, or at least I hope not. I'm very discriminating. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #73
Discriminating being the operative word. eom kurtzapril4 Nov 2012 #108
I share nothing in common with Greens and Republicans. They're both..... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #113
This message was self-deleted by its author limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #114
My granddaughter texted that she (granddaughter) just got broiles Oct 2012 #18
Anyone helping with that blockade is just awesome. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #109
Whatever you might think of her party or her campaign Ken Burch Oct 2012 #19
Her courage to do anything for publicity, including getting arrested? harmonicon Oct 2012 #41
despicable? why? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #64
Oh, bullshit. harmonicon Nov 2012 #70
What's wrong with publicity? eridani Nov 2012 #75
Getting arrested for publicity? harmonicon Nov 2012 #84
So? She has time but not money eridani Nov 2012 #85
Publicity for the tar sands issue? That's not what she's doing AT ALL. harmonicon Nov 2012 #86
Or she's using her campaign to get publicity for the issues she cares about eridani Nov 2012 #105
Look, I don't support her campaign, but unlike you Ken Burch Nov 2012 #88
I think you're misreading me here. harmonicon Nov 2012 #89
As far as I know, she's NOT rich. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #90
I don't see the right as an enemy, and I definitely don't see the Greens as an enemy. harmonicon Nov 2012 #92
There will surely be those argiel1234 Oct 2012 #21
Count me among the "mockers". Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #23
Ok then argiel1234 Oct 2012 #25
Her message doesn't matter. She's a lying sack of dog doo doo. I heard one interview. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #27
The right wing despises Greens as well argiel1234 Oct 2012 #31
I'm fully aware, which only means they are universally despised. I just hate 'em for a different Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #34
look argiel1234 Oct 2012 #36
If, as you say, "her message is what matters", why didn't she primary the president? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #71
This could be a very close election creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #43
please argiel1234 Oct 2012 #44
here creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #46
why dont you post the problems with argiel1234 Oct 2012 #48
I do, but not on this thread creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #56
are you afraid of posting about electronic voting argiel1234 Oct 2012 #57
Because I'm sick of Greens creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #58
no. are you afraid? argiel1234 Oct 2012 #59
Why not just adjust policies a little bit to incorporate some of the Green/left ideas into limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #50
These people are clowns and idiots fujiyama Nov 2012 #67
Attention to tar sands and climate change is a very worthy cause IMO n/t eridani Nov 2012 #76
the Greens exist b/c Dems are getting corporate funding and won't stand against nukes wordpix Nov 2012 #101
You're right - Greens and Dems should form a coalition gov if R$ wins otherwise. wordpix Nov 2012 #102
"Her message doesn't matter.' argiel1234 Oct 2012 #32
Glad we cleared that up. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #35
The green party is non existent in terms of this race argiel1234 Oct 2012 #37
They poll about 1% creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #45
So why support tar sands? limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #51
If the Greens had a popular agenda creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #55
It seems popular to me. limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #60
Because Greens have a history of working well with the GOP. Remember 2000? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #72
How is she dishonest? What, exactly has she lied about? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #66
The one and onl interview I heard with Ms. Stein was on NPR. Search around their..... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #74
Are you insane? If we'd gotten off of oil, none of that stuff, or even Sandy, would have happened. grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #68
The Ugly Democrat rears its head. Mocking and sneering is so classy. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #26
Fuck Greens, and their joke of a "presidential" candidate. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #28
Yeah, whatever. Stay classy. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2012 #29
You too. Shouldn't this shit be posted over at Green Underground? Oh wait.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #33
Really? davidthegnome Nov 2012 #63
"I'd like to see any actual evidence to back your assumption...." marmar Nov 2012 #81
How about a Democrat who doesn't respect the idea.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #30
I thank her for her activism, but she can do that without acting as a vote trash can. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #24
Wow, some nice chime in's on this thread Hydra Oct 2012 #42
Anyone running who isn't Obama is the ENEMY. OnyxCollie Oct 2012 #61
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #47
Good for Dr. Stein Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #80
She seems to have more stones than Ralph Nader at least. I'll give her that. Arkana Nov 2012 #83
Care to elaborate? Ralph Nader's done a hell of a lot for the public for very little thanks. (nt) harmonicon Nov 2012 #87
Look everybody a Ralph Nader post. Dog pile on Ralph..... Hotler Nov 2012 #91
Sad how some on here feel the need to act like childeren.... AnOhioan Nov 2012 #93
Well said. Ash_F Nov 2012 #95
Most of the progressive voices have been Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #100
It's a shame because this story isn't even about her candidacy. /nt Ash_F Nov 2012 #104
I agree, Le Taz. kurtzapril4 Nov 2012 #110
It's the same predictable garbage woo me with science Nov 2012 #107
Agreed, it's truly disgusting CrawlingChaos Nov 2012 #111
You can't win by out-republicaning the republicans /nt Ash_F Nov 2012 #115
Kick woo me with science Nov 2012 #116
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