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femmedem

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20. Fortunately, scientists no longer think there is "baked in" global warming if we stop emissions.
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 04:22 PM
Apr 2022

"The first step is to get rid of an old idea that the public, the media and policymakers are not clear on—the notion that even if humans stopped emitting carbon dioxide overnight, inertia in the climate system would continue to raise temperature for many years. Because CO2 can persist in the atmosphere for a century or more, the argument goes, even if the concentration stopped rising, temperature would keep going up because the heat-trapping mechanism is already in place. In other words, some level of future warming is “baked into” the system, so it’s too late to avoid the 1.5-degree threshold.


But scientists discounted that idea at least a decade ago. Climate models consistently show that “committed” (baked-in) warming does not happen. As soon as CO2 emissions stop rising, the atmospheric concentration of CO2 levels off and starts to slowly fall because the oceans, soils and vegetation keep absorbing CO2, as they always do. Temperature doesn’t rise further. It also doesn’t drop, because atmospheric and ocean interactions adjust and balance out. The net effect is that “temperature does not go up or down,” says Joeri Rogelj, director of research at the Grantham Institute—Climate Change and Environment at Imperial College London. The good news is that if nations can cut emissions substantially and quickly, warming can be held to less than 1.5 degrees."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/theres-still-time-to-fix-climate-about-11-years/

That said, I'm otherwise pessimistic.

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"...it will require a massive effort by governments, businesses and individuals." CrispyQ Apr 2022 #1
+1 2naSalit Apr 2022 #4
Pretty much. Delphinus Apr 2022 #7
Fortunately, scientists no longer think there is "baked in" global warming if we stop emissions. femmedem Apr 2022 #20
Oh, excellent! Delphinus Apr 2022 #30
You're welcome! femmedem Apr 2022 #33
+1 UT_democrat Apr 2022 #16
I'm doing my part by sequestering microscopic plastic in my bloodstream,... LudwigPastorius Apr 2022 #28
Yup. sakabatou Apr 2022 #21
They're just guessing. Random Boomer Apr 2022 #2
I agree with you 100%. Mickju Apr 2022 #6
It won't take that long to thaw most of the frozen methane on land and in the oceans. TeamProg Apr 2022 #11
Let me guess, Repukes chose "Never" AllTooEasy Apr 2022 #3
Let me guess, Repukes chose "Never" AllTooEasy Apr 2022 #5
"..Without immediate and deep emissions reductions across all sectors, it will be impossible." TeamProg Apr 2022 #8
Educated People: "We have to do something right now." Grokenstein Apr 2022 #9
I believe some of the 1% wants "never." It's their long-awaited great Shock Doctrine opportunity ... Auggie Apr 2022 #10
Well then its "never". Because it aint happening in 30 months. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #12
debbie downer here orleans Apr 2022 #13
Was hoping for big things from remote work and cocooning bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #14
What jobs in what companies or organizations would be best to meet this goal? That's the failure imo FreepFryer Apr 2022 #15
Anyone who is going to be alive in 2050 and beyond (a mere 28 years on...) Moostache Apr 2022 #17
A low-carbon economy? Doesn't sound like capitalism. Jetheels Apr 2022 #18
"Hell no. Solutions would mess up our key-bump sex orgies." - KGOP Achilleaze Apr 2022 #19
STEP 1. Stop Putin from throwing Bombs, then jail Putin. Escurumbele Apr 2022 #22
It Was Always Never modrepub Apr 2022 #23
I'm not sure what "small changes on a local level" means muriel_volestrangler Apr 2022 #24
We've Been Trying High Level Government Policies For Decades modrepub Apr 2022 #32
Joe Manchin doesn't care. Justice matters. Apr 2022 #25
Europe can't even quit Russian fossil fuels in the face of war atrocities. hunter Apr 2022 #26
I'm glad I never had kids. LudwigPastorius Apr 2022 #27
It was always never. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #29
I always take the long view. hunter Apr 2022 #31
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