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128. AOC 2024!

Mon Jul 11, 2022, 04:08 PM

Jul 2022

Just kidding.

But why do so many take offence to talking about age? It will be, already has been, the focal point of ridicule and mocking by the right. And it ain't gonna get any better. In fact, all it would take is one bigger gaff, during the next campaign, a noticeable "senior moment" and it would be all over.

That is what most Democrats fear. The unelecability. Not that they don 't support him or his policies.

Worrying about electability has always been a Democratic voter's dilemma. Because Democrats always have to win by millions more votes just to barely squeek in. Because of the unfairness of the electoral system. Which is why it doesn't take much to sway them from voting in someone like Sanders, the person with consistently the highest favorability numbers and lowest unfavourability numbers when he campaigns for the job. Most Democrats will always choose the one with the most favourable chance in how they will be perceived and portrayed by the MSM, over anything else. How much Fox News can use against them. And so no matter how much we love Biden, and admire his tenacity, its all about winning.

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Most Democrats Don't Want Biden in 2024, New Poll Shows [View all] Omaha Steve Jul 2022 OP

This is stupid to blame Biden, of course. HUAJIAO Jul 2022 #1

Yes it Rebl2 Jul 2022 #68

Part of the problem is Presidential campaign promises ripcord Jul 2022 #93

Not a lot can be done by executive orders alone Novara Jul 2022 #102

Good point. cilla4progress Jul 2022 #115

or the voters should know that the promises are to sign/veto bills treestar Jul 2022 #141

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #145

+1 Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #167

It's NOT Biden's Fault OhioTim Jul 2022 #126

Voters promise themselves too much. Aussie105 Jul 2022 #2

+10 nt reACTIONary Jul 2022 #8

True, not funny, but funny. Love this. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #18

And they want them to fix all disasters left by Republican Presidents in less than 2 years chowder66 Jul 2022 #23

+1 CrispyQ Jul 2022 #87

I've never understood the significance of turning water into wine COL Mustard Jul 2022 #38

"Someone in their late 40s with 50 years experience." PatSeg Jul 2022 #56

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #65

One election at a time. It's a long way to 2024 Raven123 Jul 2022 #3

No it's not. 2024 announcements will start after November Renew Deal Jul 2022 #15

NO, Biden not running for re-election is probably NOT good for Democrats.. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2022 #35

Either way, we would make history BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #40

Yeah. And no party elected a black guy before 2008. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #67

Or a gay guy before 2024 BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #71

It won't be 2024 Polybius Jul 2022 #77

A gay will be elected Prez before someone in his 80s BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #84

Both may not happen in 2024 Polybius Jul 2022 #89

Me neither BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #91

Ya know, you have got me thinking about something Polybius Jul 2022 #94

That is simply not true...and Pete does not have the Black vote thus will not win. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #174

I believe we should focus on 2022. Raven123 Jul 2022 #61

This 👆 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #132

I'm voting for President Biden in 2024. rockfordfile Jul 2022 #114

The NYT's poll disndat Jul 2022 #157

See how things boil down in the next year or so... regnaD kciN Jul 2022 #137

If he was five years younger those numbers would be quite different BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #4

This. bamagal62 Jul 2022 #28

I agree. KPN Jul 2022 #99

Would like to read the entire article but not interested in creating an account at NYT right now. Kaleva Jul 2022 #5

Here's an archive.org link BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #16

Thanks! Kaleva Jul 2022 #51

You're welcome BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #60

I get free access to NYT (if I want it) cilla4progress Jul 2022 #116

At this point in time . .... Lovie777 Jul 2022 #6

Yup. Focus on 2022. COL Mustard Jul 2022 #39

Seriously-- the NYTimes is not our friend and this article is just noise LymphocyteLover Jul 2022 #106

Nailed it! PortTack Jul 2022 #107

80 is really too old. Tomconroy Jul 2022 #7

I strongly disagree. Not in the 21st Century. 80 is the new 70. Tommymac Jul 2022 #62

We should be like Finland. Tomconroy Jul 2022 #66

Only 36 Polybius Jul 2022 #80

AOC 2024! LiberalLovinLug Jul 2022 #128

"If you have top of the line 21st century healthcare, then 100 is very achievable." Polybius Jul 2022 #79

For some yes. But for most it isn't. Buckeyeblue Jul 2022 #122

Same. Tomconroy Jul 2022 #136

Agree and I am 80 years old kiranon Jul 2022 #144

I had no concerns with Biden's election in 2020 - I was certain enough that he could serve until 82. Midwestern Democrat Jul 2022 #165

No, bullshit. betsuni Jul 2022 #9

nytimes reports and reinforces pessimism by using nytimes poll? hmm FreepFryer Jul 2022 #10

A little more than three months before the midterms. They have a pattern of doing this JohnSJ Jul 2022 #58

Who are these people? And how much is the media's non-coverage hurting him? Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #11

Joe is too nice to confront the Right bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #12

I just looked up who owns the NYT. Very interesting, people. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #13

The poll question from the headline only asked 191 people BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #14

amazing. what fuckers. the article and backup info says a total of 849 voters. thanks bumrush FreepFryer Jul 2022 #20

The poll was of 849 people. Of those people 37 percent said they were likely Tomconroy Jul 2022 #34

I hadn't gotten to the cross-tabs BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #36

Yes,I think the NYTimes disndat Jul 2022 #37

What else is he supposed to be doing? Bayard Jul 2022 #17

Voters are stupid, sadly Herx Jul 2022 #19

Ignoring voters got us screwed. marble falls Jul 2022 #27

Very True SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #29

+1. This. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #92

True BradAllison Jul 2022 #82

Bold actions - even if they are reversed by courts ihaveaquestion Jul 2022 #97

+1 n/t area51 Jul 2022 #142

But what about Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #168

Economy is recovering from pandemic which is leading to inflation Freethinker65 Jul 2022 #21

Great summation. Basic LA Jul 2022 #63

Mark my words Biden will run for a second term as he understand incumbency...and he will win. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #173

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #177

And if for some reason Biden can't continue...we get Kamala...not a bad thing. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #178

And the list of people they also "don't want" in 2024 FBaggins Jul 2022 #22

+1 chowder66 Jul 2022 #24

Biden does not send constant tweets for the press to report on rather than real news. Lonestarblue Jul 2022 #25

He takes care of business instead of blowing off about how good he's doing SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #32

He, Harris, and the Department/agency heads are constantly sending out tweets BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #44

Thank you! betsuni Jul 2022 #151

I'm not sure that polling is 'stirring up the masses,' ramen Jul 2022 #54

Voters are dissatisfied because slob is not behind bars & ruskie assets in congress SheltieLover Jul 2022 #26

... BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #42

Cute! SheltieLover Jul 2022 #48

I had found that a few years ago BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #59

I had one as a kid, too! SheltieLover Jul 2022 #64

None of which is Joe's fault. Polybius Jul 2022 #81

I think Biden has done a good job, it is his age bothers me. That was the doc03 Jul 2022 #30

it can't be ignored. I backed him from the start thinking he was best to beat Trump oldsoftie Jul 2022 #75

no one would want an 80 year old pilot or surgeon Skittles Jul 2022 #152

+1 Trump is a little younger and obviously his mental state is much worse than doc03 Jul 2022 #154

I miss Eric Boehlert more every day Lulu KC Jul 2022 #31

This made me so angry! Pmc1962 Jul 2022 #33

Honestly, I blame Republicans for everything wrong. ananda Jul 2022 #41

I used to be a big supporter of the NY Times. Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2022 #43

Me too...not for a long time now PortTack Jul 2022 #109

I was a Biden supporter since the beginning of the 2020 primary. Claustrum Jul 2022 #45

Why are we bashing our party? jmbar2 Jul 2022 #46

I'm voting for Biden. These so called dems can go f themselves. iluvtennis Jul 2022 #47

Like I said in another post, Claustrum Jul 2022 #50

True. Biden was born in 1942. Trump was born in 1946. jimfields33 Jul 2022 #73

Amen to that!! PortTack Jul 2022 #110

The "Old Gray Lady" has reduced herself to clickbait. PdamnedQ Jul 2022 #49

We keep seeing this same headline on DU like clockwork, just about every week DFW Jul 2022 #52

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #55

Manchin and Sinema have obstructed President Biden's, and Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #53

FUCK THE NY TIMES, who in their infinite wisdom, a little over 3 months before the midterms, start JohnSJ Jul 2022 #57

After reading the polling details this isn't news, its RW propaganda. nt yaesu Jul 2022 #69

Of course it is. Over two years before the presidential election, with the midterms right around JohnSJ Jul 2022 #88

Biden himself may be fed up IronLionZion Jul 2022 #70

President Biden will be a two term president. LakeArenal Jul 2022 #86

I stopped believing in polls when they read that trump was three or more points behind Hillary. zanana1 Jul 2022 #72

It won't matter if he doesn't get a substantial challenger 867-5309. Jul 2022 #74

Gavin Newsom ripcord Jul 2022 #90

Substantial, but would he challenge Joe? 867-5309. Jul 2022 #95

No..he wouldn't..he's too smart, young and plenty of time for him in the future to run PortTack Jul 2022 #111

That's my point... 867-5309. Jul 2022 #117

THIS is the ultimate purpose of McConnell's campaign of obstructionism & it works. NullTuples Jul 2022 #76

Democrats need to yell out their accomplishments, people are always in the dark of what this Escurumbele Jul 2022 #78

A question for DU presidential historians: Polybius Jul 2022 #83

LBJ (and Truman) do count. former9thward Jul 2022 #124

By saying LBJ doesn't count, I mean besides someone who inherited the Presidency Polybius Jul 2022 #149

Truman did run...and he won which surprised everyone...ah the power of incumbency. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #166

Yes, he got one elected full term. former9thward Jul 2022 #171

I believe it was Rutherford B. Hayes, whose election was easily the most suspect in U.S. history. Midwestern Democrat Jul 2022 #164

I'd like Biden to say he was wrong aocommunalpunch Jul 2022 #85

I'm with you. I said it during the campaign, anyone who thinks they can work with repubs are Escurumbele Jul 2022 #101

If they run Desantis then President Biden's age is going to be a big issue in the election inwiththenew Jul 2022 #96

There's really no denying this Baggies Jul 2022 #98

It's called "The Ostrich Syndrome", hide your head in the sand, never know when the machete is Escurumbele Jul 2022 #103

So what do these people do after the machete strikes? Baggies Jul 2022 #108

Dumb DownriverDem Jul 2022 #100

Because republicans understand the "old guy" routine works. Escurumbele Jul 2022 #105

More Click Bait from MSM maggots trying to sh*t stir the Democratic party! Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #104

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Jul 2022 #130

The NYT has descended fastly and firmly into magat land. Raster Jul 2022 #162

They were headed there during W and Obama years. Certain members of the editorial board Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #163

If Democrats are unhappy with President Biden J_William_Ryan Jul 2022 #112

BS. It seems they keep pushing republican bs. I will vote for President Biden easily in 2024 rockfordfile Jul 2022 #113

Bull shit! Saw headline @ grocery store; luckily, not angry enough for it to impair my driving. elleng Jul 2022 #118

Maybe OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2022 #119

I think we need to step back and think about why this is happening. Politicub Jul 2022 #120

Well said Demovictory9 Jul 2022 #121

The current Supreme court disndat Jul 2022 #123

Don't worry about it SunImp Jul 2022 #125

It IS complicated moose65 Jul 2022 #138

A Hero marieo1 Jul 2022 #127

Kamala for 2024 manicdem Jul 2022 #129

Personally, I prefer Gavin Polybius Jul 2022 #150

I agree ThunderRoad Jul 2022 #159

No, Biden for 24...and since VP Harris did not do well in the primary. I can't see her Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #172

No, we want to win the election...and there is not way VP Harris can win the rustbelt. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #180

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jul 2022 #131

who in the hell llashram Jul 2022 #133

Unavailable Marcuse Jul 2022 #134

Ikind of thought it was assumed he wouldn't run again. progressoid Jul 2022 #135

disgusted that dems keep self -sabotaging and giving repugs more ammunition marti Jul 2022 #139

I hate the "is the nation on the right track" question, it's far too ambiguous without asking "Why?" CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #140

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #146

and THIS is why he was not my choice for 2020 Skittles Jul 2022 #143

Biden didn' t create the mess we're in GoldandSilver Jul 2022 #147

Is it even an age issue? pstokely Jul 2022 #148

If you want to talk age . . . Aussie105 Jul 2022 #153

If I could redo time and fate newdayneeded Jul 2022 #155

I like Newsom and.... zentrum Jul 2022 #156

If there was a young president it would be the same whining about broken promises and betsuni Jul 2022 #158

BS poll onetexan Jul 2022 #160

Wow! Is it 2024 already?!? Raster Jul 2022 #161

Hacks gonna flack mahina Jul 2022 #169

They didn't ask me. flying_wahini Jul 2022 #170

exactly why he was never my pick Skittles Jul 2022 #175

1. Most Democrats Don't Want Biden in 2024, New Poll Shows Ondodoayst Jul 2022 #176

why this shit llashram Jul 2022 #181

I think if we are honest, most of us didn't vote "for" Biden - we voted against Trump Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2022 #179

Yet this recent Politico poll says 72% of Democrats would back Biden in 2024 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #182