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147. Biden didn' t create the mess we're in

Mon Jul 11, 2022, 10:21 PM

Jul 2022

and it’s pretty damn hard to solve all the issues given that the function of the Republikan Party is to go against anything a Democrat (particularly Joe Biden) promotes no matter what the US wants or needs. We have a 2 party political system that the Republikans want bury. They simply want to be only Party. We’ve seen how that works.

I will always be a fan of Joe Biden and I will be forever grateful that he was a stabilizing force after the disaster of the Oranage Menace, but I want a younger Democrat to be the Democratic nominee for 2024. A representative that can bring Dems together to be force we really are. One that can re-educate Republikans on the history and merits of American Democracy, American republicanism and the function of a representative government.

Who is that leader? I dunno, but they better show up real soon!

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Most Democrats Don't Want Biden in 2024, New Poll Shows [View all] Omaha Steve Jul 2022 OP

This is stupid to blame Biden, of course. HUAJIAO Jul 2022 #1

Yes it Rebl2 Jul 2022 #68

Part of the problem is Presidential campaign promises ripcord Jul 2022 #93

Not a lot can be done by executive orders alone Novara Jul 2022 #102

Good point. cilla4progress Jul 2022 #115

or the voters should know that the promises are to sign/veto bills treestar Jul 2022 #141

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #145

+1 Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #167

It's NOT Biden's Fault OhioTim Jul 2022 #126

Voters promise themselves too much. Aussie105 Jul 2022 #2

+10 nt reACTIONary Jul 2022 #8

True, not funny, but funny. Love this. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #18

And they want them to fix all disasters left by Republican Presidents in less than 2 years chowder66 Jul 2022 #23

+1 CrispyQ Jul 2022 #87

I've never understood the significance of turning water into wine COL Mustard Jul 2022 #38

"Someone in their late 40s with 50 years experience." PatSeg Jul 2022 #56

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #65

One election at a time. It's a long way to 2024 Raven123 Jul 2022 #3

No it's not. 2024 announcements will start after November Renew Deal Jul 2022 #15

NO, Biden not running for re-election is probably NOT good for Democrats.. DemocraticPatriot Jul 2022 #35

Either way, we would make history BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #40

Yeah. And no party elected a black guy before 2008. 3Hotdogs Jul 2022 #67

Or a gay guy before 2024 BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #71

It won't be 2024 Polybius Jul 2022 #77

A gay will be elected Prez before someone in his 80s BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #84

Both may not happen in 2024 Polybius Jul 2022 #89

Me neither BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #91

Ya know, you have got me thinking about something Polybius Jul 2022 #94

That is simply not true...and Pete does not have the Black vote thus will not win. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #174

I believe we should focus on 2022. Raven123 Jul 2022 #61

This 👆 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #132

I'm voting for President Biden in 2024. rockfordfile Jul 2022 #114

The NYT's poll disndat Jul 2022 #157

See how things boil down in the next year or so... regnaD kciN Jul 2022 #137

If he was five years younger those numbers would be quite different BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #4

This. bamagal62 Jul 2022 #28

I agree. KPN Jul 2022 #99

Would like to read the entire article but not interested in creating an account at NYT right now. Kaleva Jul 2022 #5

Here's an archive.org link BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #16

Thanks! Kaleva Jul 2022 #51

You're welcome BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #60

I get free access to NYT (if I want it) cilla4progress Jul 2022 #116

At this point in time . .... Lovie777 Jul 2022 #6

Yup. Focus on 2022. COL Mustard Jul 2022 #39

Seriously-- the NYTimes is not our friend and this article is just noise LymphocyteLover Jul 2022 #106

Nailed it! PortTack Jul 2022 #107

80 is really too old. Tomconroy Jul 2022 #7

I strongly disagree. Not in the 21st Century. 80 is the new 70. Tommymac Jul 2022 #62

We should be like Finland. Tomconroy Jul 2022 #66

Only 36 Polybius Jul 2022 #80

AOC 2024! LiberalLovinLug Jul 2022 #128

"If you have top of the line 21st century healthcare, then 100 is very achievable." Polybius Jul 2022 #79

For some yes. But for most it isn't. Buckeyeblue Jul 2022 #122

Same. Tomconroy Jul 2022 #136

Agree and I am 80 years old kiranon Jul 2022 #144

I had no concerns with Biden's election in 2020 - I was certain enough that he could serve until 82. Midwestern Democrat Jul 2022 #165

No, bullshit. betsuni Jul 2022 #9

nytimes reports and reinforces pessimism by using nytimes poll? hmm FreepFryer Jul 2022 #10

A little more than three months before the midterms. They have a pattern of doing this JohnSJ Jul 2022 #58

Who are these people? And how much is the media's non-coverage hurting him? Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #11

Joe is too nice to confront the Right bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #12

I just looked up who owns the NYT. Very interesting, people. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #13

The poll question from the headline only asked 191 people BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #14

amazing. what fuckers. the article and backup info says a total of 849 voters. thanks bumrush FreepFryer Jul 2022 #20

The poll was of 849 people. Of those people 37 percent said they were likely Tomconroy Jul 2022 #34

I hadn't gotten to the cross-tabs BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #36

Yes,I think the NYTimes disndat Jul 2022 #37

What else is he supposed to be doing? Bayard Jul 2022 #17

Voters are stupid, sadly Herx Jul 2022 #19

Ignoring voters got us screwed. marble falls Jul 2022 #27

Very True SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #29

+1. This. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #92

True BradAllison Jul 2022 #82

Bold actions - even if they are reversed by courts ihaveaquestion Jul 2022 #97

+1 n/t area51 Jul 2022 #142

But what about Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #168

Economy is recovering from pandemic which is leading to inflation Freethinker65 Jul 2022 #21

Great summation. Basic LA Jul 2022 #63

Mark my words Biden will run for a second term as he understand incumbency...and he will win. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #173

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #177

And if for some reason Biden can't continue...we get Kamala...not a bad thing. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #178

And the list of people they also "don't want" in 2024 FBaggins Jul 2022 #22

+1 chowder66 Jul 2022 #24

Biden does not send constant tweets for the press to report on rather than real news. Lonestarblue Jul 2022 #25

He takes care of business instead of blowing off about how good he's doing SouthernDem4ever Jul 2022 #32

He, Harris, and the Department/agency heads are constantly sending out tweets BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #44

Thank you! betsuni Jul 2022 #151

I'm not sure that polling is 'stirring up the masses,' ramen Jul 2022 #54

Voters are dissatisfied because slob is not behind bars & ruskie assets in congress SheltieLover Jul 2022 #26

... BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #42

Cute! SheltieLover Jul 2022 #48

I had found that a few years ago BumRushDaShow Jul 2022 #59

I had one as a kid, too! SheltieLover Jul 2022 #64

None of which is Joe's fault. Polybius Jul 2022 #81

I think Biden has done a good job, it is his age bothers me. That was the doc03 Jul 2022 #30

it can't be ignored. I backed him from the start thinking he was best to beat Trump oldsoftie Jul 2022 #75

no one would want an 80 year old pilot or surgeon Skittles Jul 2022 #152

+1 Trump is a little younger and obviously his mental state is much worse than doc03 Jul 2022 #154

I miss Eric Boehlert more every day Lulu KC Jul 2022 #31

This made me so angry! Pmc1962 Jul 2022 #33

Honestly, I blame Republicans for everything wrong. ananda Jul 2022 #41

I used to be a big supporter of the NY Times. Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2022 #43

Me too...not for a long time now PortTack Jul 2022 #109

I was a Biden supporter since the beginning of the 2020 primary. Claustrum Jul 2022 #45

Why are we bashing our party? jmbar2 Jul 2022 #46

I'm voting for Biden. These so called dems can go f themselves. iluvtennis Jul 2022 #47

Like I said in another post, Claustrum Jul 2022 #50

True. Biden was born in 1942. Trump was born in 1946. jimfields33 Jul 2022 #73

Amen to that!! PortTack Jul 2022 #110

The "Old Gray Lady" has reduced herself to clickbait. PdamnedQ Jul 2022 #49

We keep seeing this same headline on DU like clockwork, just about every week DFW Jul 2022 #52

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #55

Manchin and Sinema have obstructed President Biden's, and Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #53

FUCK THE NY TIMES, who in their infinite wisdom, a little over 3 months before the midterms, start JohnSJ Jul 2022 #57

After reading the polling details this isn't news, its RW propaganda. nt yaesu Jul 2022 #69

Of course it is. Over two years before the presidential election, with the midterms right around JohnSJ Jul 2022 #88

Biden himself may be fed up IronLionZion Jul 2022 #70

President Biden will be a two term president. LakeArenal Jul 2022 #86

I stopped believing in polls when they read that trump was three or more points behind Hillary. zanana1 Jul 2022 #72

It won't matter if he doesn't get a substantial challenger 867-5309. Jul 2022 #74

Gavin Newsom ripcord Jul 2022 #90

Substantial, but would he challenge Joe? 867-5309. Jul 2022 #95

No..he wouldn't..he's too smart, young and plenty of time for him in the future to run PortTack Jul 2022 #111

That's my point... 867-5309. Jul 2022 #117

THIS is the ultimate purpose of McConnell's campaign of obstructionism & it works. NullTuples Jul 2022 #76

Democrats need to yell out their accomplishments, people are always in the dark of what this Escurumbele Jul 2022 #78

A question for DU presidential historians: Polybius Jul 2022 #83

LBJ (and Truman) do count. former9thward Jul 2022 #124

By saying LBJ doesn't count, I mean besides someone who inherited the Presidency Polybius Jul 2022 #149

Truman did run...and he won which surprised everyone...ah the power of incumbency. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #166

Yes, he got one elected full term. former9thward Jul 2022 #171

I believe it was Rutherford B. Hayes, whose election was easily the most suspect in U.S. history. Midwestern Democrat Jul 2022 #164

I'd like Biden to say he was wrong aocommunalpunch Jul 2022 #85

I'm with you. I said it during the campaign, anyone who thinks they can work with repubs are Escurumbele Jul 2022 #101

If they run Desantis then President Biden's age is going to be a big issue in the election inwiththenew Jul 2022 #96

There's really no denying this Baggies Jul 2022 #98

It's called "The Ostrich Syndrome", hide your head in the sand, never know when the machete is Escurumbele Jul 2022 #103

So what do these people do after the machete strikes? Baggies Jul 2022 #108

Dumb DownriverDem Jul 2022 #100

Because republicans understand the "old guy" routine works. Escurumbele Jul 2022 #105

More Click Bait from MSM maggots trying to sh*t stir the Democratic party! Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #104

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Jul 2022 #130

The NYT has descended fastly and firmly into magat land. Raster Jul 2022 #162

They were headed there during W and Obama years. Certain members of the editorial board Ford_Prefect Jul 2022 #163

If Democrats are unhappy with President Biden J_William_Ryan Jul 2022 #112

BS. It seems they keep pushing republican bs. I will vote for President Biden easily in 2024 rockfordfile Jul 2022 #113

Bull shit! Saw headline @ grocery store; luckily, not angry enough for it to impair my driving. elleng Jul 2022 #118

Maybe OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2022 #119

I think we need to step back and think about why this is happening. Politicub Jul 2022 #120

Well said Demovictory9 Jul 2022 #121

The current Supreme court disndat Jul 2022 #123

Don't worry about it SunImp Jul 2022 #125

It IS complicated moose65 Jul 2022 #138

A Hero marieo1 Jul 2022 #127

Kamala for 2024 manicdem Jul 2022 #129

Personally, I prefer Gavin Polybius Jul 2022 #150

I agree ThunderRoad Jul 2022 #159

No, Biden for 24...and since VP Harris did not do well in the primary. I can't see her Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #172

No, we want to win the election...and there is not way VP Harris can win the rustbelt. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #180

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jul 2022 #131

who in the hell llashram Jul 2022 #133

Unavailable Marcuse Jul 2022 #134

Ikind of thought it was assumed he wouldn't run again. progressoid Jul 2022 #135

disgusted that dems keep self -sabotaging and giving repugs more ammunition marti Jul 2022 #139

I hate the "is the nation on the right track" question, it's far too ambiguous without asking "Why?" CaptainTruth Jul 2022 #140

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #146

and THIS is why he was not my choice for 2020 Skittles Jul 2022 #143

Biden didn' t create the mess we're in GoldandSilver Jul 2022 #147

Is it even an age issue? pstokely Jul 2022 #148

If you want to talk age . . . Aussie105 Jul 2022 #153

If I could redo time and fate newdayneeded Jul 2022 #155

I like Newsom and.... zentrum Jul 2022 #156

If there was a young president it would be the same whining about broken promises and betsuni Jul 2022 #158

BS poll onetexan Jul 2022 #160

Wow! Is it 2024 already?!? Raster Jul 2022 #161

Hacks gonna flack mahina Jul 2022 #169

They didn't ask me. flying_wahini Jul 2022 #170

exactly why he was never my pick Skittles Jul 2022 #175

1. Most Democrats Don't Want Biden in 2024, New Poll Shows Ondodoayst Jul 2022 #176

why this shit llashram Jul 2022 #181

I think if we are honest, most of us didn't vote "for" Biden - we voted against Trump Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2022 #179

Yet this recent Politico poll says 72% of Democrats would back Biden in 2024 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #182