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Igel

(37,625 posts)
10. That's the issue.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 08:19 PM
Oct 2022

If you can't substantiate standing, there's no case.

Doesn't mean that the action's legal or Constitutional, it's just that under the rules of American jurisprudence nobody can file a claim.

The Biden admin has responded to at least a couple of suits by modifying the program to specifically rule out claims filed. In one case, the modification affected at least 100s of thousands and occurred the day that a suit was filed. Action-reaction, the modification was pretty obviously done in order to avoid judicial review. That's not the action of an administration confidence of its legal standing. It's not "bring it on" it's "duck and cover".

NY played this game, changing laws to avoid action against the gun legislation passed there over the years. SCOTUS said that the actions taken were specifically to do something un-Constitutional but deny standing to plaintiffs and avoid judicial review and granted standing to those who lacked official standing because of what NYS did to *avoid* review.

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I'm confused Mz Pip Oct 2022 #1
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She acted on a case from the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #3
+ agree. Also, over 20 million put in their applications for the debt relief today (21 October) iluvtennis Oct 2022 #4
I was one of them. AllyCat Oct 2022 #16
Not in any real sense FBaggins Oct 2022 #9
And how do all the red staters feel montanacowboy Oct 2022 #5
Any legal actions against farmer's debt relief? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2022 #6
So who has standing to file a suit? Fiendish Thingy Oct 2022 #7
That's the issue. Igel Oct 2022 #10
They haven't gotten that far yet FBaggins Oct 2022 #11
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Any harm that can be made whole by repayment of money is not "irreparable." nt SunSeeker Oct 2022 #21
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Yep, all the states are just talking about money damages. SunSeeker Oct 2022 #22
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