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ancianita

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23. The Guardian and Reuters confirm that Russian confirms the hit.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 01:50 PM
Dec 2022
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/05/explosions-russia-airbases-far-from-ukraine-frontline-bombers

The Russian defence ministry confirmed the attacks on Monday, blaming them on Ukraine and saying two warplanes were damaged. For Kyiv the strike represented an unprecedented operation deep inside Russia to disrupt the Kremlin strategy of provoking a humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine on the verge of winter.

Russian media reports and video posted to social media indicated that an explosion occurred early on Monday morning at the Engels-2 airbase in Russia’s Saratov region, which hosts Tu-95 bombers that have taken part in cruise missile strikes against Ukraine...

Another explosion took place at the Dyagilevo military airbase near Ryazan, a city less than 150 miles from Moscow. Three people were killed and five wounded after a fuel truck exploded, Russian state media reported. That base also hosts Tu-95 long-range bombers.

Soon after the blasts at the airbases, Russia launched a long anticipated mass strike against Ukraine, involving air-and sea-launched missiles from the Black and Caspian Seas.

Ukraine claimed to have shot down 60 of a total of 70 incoming missiles, a new record in the effectiveness of its air defence systems. The Russian defence ministry claimed to have hit 17 targets.

In Kyiv, air raid sirens sounded, and people took shelter in underground metro stations, but no missiles hit the capital, and after three hours the all clear was sounded. The strikes plunged some parts of the country into blackout at a time when temperatures are well below zero, but they appeared to have been significantly less successful is disrupting the Ukrainian power grid than the previous Russian mass missile attack on 23 November....

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Military target or just careless smoking around a tanker and planes. Historic NY Dec 2022 #1
Given that it's the Russians, I am betting on the latter. Ray Bruns Dec 2022 #6
The Guardian and Reuters confirm that Russian confirms the hit. ancianita Dec 2022 #23
It's convenient to quickly blame Ukraine when your war effort is in the toilet. mpcamb Dec 2022 #70
About time! Level all their air bases and munitions depots around Moscow. machoneman Dec 2022 #2
I think it could be high time to send EU and US grain ships with military support mpcamb Dec 2022 #71
According to one source it was a drone strike. Ford_Prefect Dec 2022 #3
From The Guardian ancianita Dec 2022 #24
The Guardian story makes it sound like it might be something else. Ford_Prefect Dec 2022 #38
It does. And it's puzzling. But it's dated today, so I thought it relevant. ancianita Dec 2022 #48
There was some discussion of Ukraine's special units operating inside Russia but that was Ford_Prefect Dec 2022 #57
Exactly. And the way the weapons have been given, it seems to just exact a ancianita Dec 2022 #59
I'm also not military Kennah Dec 2022 #61
False Flag operation should definitely be considered..... DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #67
As I recall Ukraine is using drones sourced from several suppliers, not only US models. Ford_Prefect Dec 2022 #68
I have to think that a Russian false flag would target civilians... Mister Ed Dec 2022 #69
True DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #73
Oh boy. The war has widened. Hope this strike into Russia damages Putin's... brush Dec 2022 #4
"It's a daring risk ... an escalation... Are the Ukrainians trying to...make the West do more?" jaxexpat Dec 2022 #9
It's got to be more than just damaging a few bombers. Security... brush Dec 2022 #12
It's all those things and more. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #60
It's Ukraine retaliation for Russia's bombing their electrical grid, hitting Russian bases of ancianita Dec 2022 #25
With any luck it's a Russian screw up, rather than a Ukrainian attack. Bucky Dec 2022 #72
One for the good guys! Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #5
We hit Bruno Tattaglia 4 o'clock this morning...... * Jack from Charlotte Dec 2022 #22
Good article except for this part: Mister Ed Dec 2022 #7
Exactly. James48 Dec 2022 #11
It's gotta be more than damaging a few planes. See Post 12. brush Dec 2022 #13
Yes and no... brooklynite Dec 2022 #21
Aye. Probably a good strategy. Mister Ed Dec 2022 #36
"daily beast" always goes wild in their stories, which are mostly opinion anyway PSPS Dec 2022 #35
It's just too bad they can't deliver the next one to Putin's dacha. LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #8
Putin will be visiting the frontlines NJCher Dec 2022 #15
They should be able to do so Lithos Dec 2022 #17
My favorite part of the story... momta Dec 2022 #10
Summary: "An action creates an opposite reaction." - Newton's 3rd law Escurumbele Dec 2022 #40
Are used to worry about nuclear proliferation and the risk mahina Dec 2022 #75
drip, drip, drip llashram Dec 2022 #14
Definitely a BIG embarrassment for Putin. It damages HIM worse than any damage to Tu-95's 70sEraVet Dec 2022 #16
KnR Hekate Dec 2022 #18
Where is this supposed footage? Not much coverage by the MSM nt Shermann Dec 2022 #19
K&R blue-wave Dec 2022 #20
Ukrainian Special Operations Forces Kennah Dec 2022 #26
Explosions at bases with nukes are NEVER good Dorn Dec 2022 #27
Scares the shit outta me too, considering Russia's "Perimeter" system, aka "The Dead Hand." LaMouffette Dec 2022 #30
Don't thing that kind of hair trigger for thousands of nuclear ☢️ launches is the reality. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #41
I hope to God you're right. "Weapons of Earth Destruction" is spot-on. LaMouffette Dec 2022 #74
Bombers are largely obsolete Warpy Dec 2022 #28
If bombers are obsolete, BidenRocks Dec 2022 #37
Good one, or explaining buying 100 of them...in addition to hundreds already. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #42
I did. Warpy Dec 2022 #50
Ex-Soviet Tu-95 propeller bombers are obsolete EX500rider Dec 2022 #58
We're 'Murica! We do obsolete better than anyone else! Kennah Dec 2022 #64
"Or this could be sabotage by the Russians, themselves, military guys who want the war to end ..." Lucinda Dec 2022 #39
Yes, there have been so many of these "accidents" Warpy Dec 2022 #46
Tsk Tsk republianmushroom Dec 2022 #29
This could also be a Putin move orthoclad Dec 2022 #31
The possibility of this being a "False-Flag" ploy occurred to me, too. n/t John1956PA Dec 2022 #32
Does it actually damage war-making capability orthoclad Dec 2022 #34
Ukrainian variant of Doolittle's Raid? Kennah Dec 2022 #62
Most likely orthoclad Dec 2022 #66
People died. At a military base. In a war. Any hint of evidence of such... and the national leader Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #43
Agreed. Doesn't seem like something that would make sense. XorXor Dec 2022 #49
Looking at the Logic/Probability Board, prior to intensive investigation and evidence, it's Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #56
Over 300 Russians were killed orthoclad Dec 2022 #54
Doesn't seem likely. This doesn't really give Russia any benefit. They are already at war. XorXor Dec 2022 #47
That's why I also said "atrocities" orthoclad Dec 2022 #51
They've already leveled several major Ukrainian cities and killed tens of thousands XorXor Dec 2022 #53
You're probably right. orthoclad Dec 2022 #55
They need to crack down on smoking Effete Snob Dec 2022 #33
I bet that made Putin shit his pants... Raster Dec 2022 #44
If he switches to brown suits ... Kennah Dec 2022 #65
The cigarettes are at it again, I see. XorXor Dec 2022 #45
Can't shed any tears for the Russians if it's the Ukrainians as Russia is waging a war of agression cstanleytech Dec 2022 #52
Whoops, Pootie has another "accident"! FakeNoose Dec 2022 #63
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