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29. Congress has already authorized by law the money spent and republicans are refusing to pay the debt

Sun May 21, 2023, 08:20 PM

May 2023

The debt ceiling isn't about authorizing by law any new spending, it's about paying back the debt congress had already agreed to spend.

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Biden says he thinks he has authority to use 14th Amendment on debt ceiling [View all] Galraedia May 2023 OP

The republicans want a default. Do the discharge petition, and if that fails then the 14th amendmen JohnSJ May 2023 #1

Agree 100% liberalmediaaddict May 2023 #6

Exactly JohnSJ May 2023 #10

Joe has decades of experience Roy Rolling May 2023 #40

... sprinkleeninow May 2023 #11

in the meantime, Joe calms the markets, reassures our allies, and agingdem May 2023 #37

I think President Biden knows what he is doing.................. Lovie777 May 2023 #2

I do, too. A brushback pitch the day before he "negotiates" with McCarthy. Midnight Writer May 2023 #5

Calling on any DU constitutional scholars. Sincere question here from a non-lawyer/legal scholar. Pacifist Patriot May 2023 #3

I don't know the legal ramifications but I do know the Rs will challenge anything Biden does Novara May 2023 #9

It is not as simple saying President Biden has "Constitutional protection" melm00se May 2023 #15

Congress already passed the spending in question, PAMod May 2023 #17

If there must be a vote melm00se May 2023 #18

Perhaps the law requiring such a vote is unconstitutional . PAMod May 2023 #48

The legislative power isn't absolute IbogaProject May 2023 #30

These traitors will surely pick their favorite judge and appeals court (5th circut, i'm sure) bluestarone May 2023 #28

I think the DC Circuit is the only Venue for this IbogaProject May 2023 #32

not a scholar, but mopinko May 2023 #16

This case would be fast tracked by SCOTUS on its shadow docket, IF SCOTUS were even ancianita May 2023 #20

Thank you! Pacifist Patriot May 2023 #27

If it is litigated, we've seen precedent does not matter to this SCOTUS Novara May 2023 #42

Okay, yes, we've seen that. ancianita May 2023 #44

Sure they'll fail. But they will try anyway. Novara May 2023 #45

Sure they'll try anyway. But they'll fail. ancianita May 2023 #46

Then use it. Dispense with these demoralizing and pointless negotiations. Put an end to this mess. LonePirate May 2023 #4

Yes! Use it! Pull the damn trigger! Grins May 2023 #8

+1 n/t area51 May 2023 #25

I want him to just do it JustAnotherGen May 2023 #7

President Biden KS Toronado May 2023 #12

Pick some of the previous Tax Cuts IbogaProject May 2023 #33

As a stopgap Biden should instruct the treasury to secretly mint a couple trillion-dollar Gaugamela May 2023 #13

Yes IbogaProject May 2023 #34

He may have to peppertree May 2023 #14

Don't know why, but I have faith that Joe Biden will not let us miss our Social Security checks Walleye May 2023 #19

I can't imagine Mblaze May 2023 #21

Biden clearly points out that even if he did it might take too long to implement. honest.abe May 2023 #22

That is a much clearer statement about using the 14th, clarity goes along way yaesu May 2023 #23

Declare a national emergency. Trump was all eager to make them. keithbvadu2 May 2023 #24

"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law...shall not be questioned". elocs May 2023 #26

Congress has already authorized by law the money spent and republicans are refusing to pay the debt Galraedia May 2023 #29

Then why is "by law" always left out of the 14th Amendment quotes? elocs May 2023 #35

Yep. I bought a car last year. It would be the same as me ... Novara May 2023 #47

You are dealing with a party willing to bring down th US government. There is no compromise with JohnSJ May 2023 #31

To all the nay-sayers out there, this is a powerful tactic, if nothing else. If McCarthy et al Martin68 May 2023 #36

Agree, is Supreme Court willing to take responsibility for a debt default based on their decision? NowsTheTime May 2023 #38

K&R usonian May 2023 #39

You don't negotiate with a gun to your head. Hopefully Joe if need be will Emile May 2023 #41

In politics you do indeed FBaggins May 2023 #43