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Johnny2X2X

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23. How to handle it has always been complex
Mon May 29, 2023, 12:02 PM
May 2023

Shutdowns early were completely necessary and saved lives. We had no idea how bad it could have been without the shutdowns. Could have easily been several million dead Americans rather than just 1 million. Then as we learned more, could treat it better, and got vaccines to the public, it kind of needed to make its way through the population.

It was always going to be nuanced. It was always going to be time phased on what was the right strategy to use and when to use it.

China had a zero Covid policy for too long and now it exploded there because there was little natural immunity built up in the population bit by bit. Now GOOers, who are incapable of understanding nuance will look at this and go, “see, we should have never had shutdowns.” Shutdowns were appropriate, they saved lives, and they bought time for us to learn more about Covid. Mandating vaccines was correct too. Republicans were wrong about Covid at every turn and are still wrong now and will be wrong going forward. They can’t grasp nuance and precautionary measures when we had so many unknowns.

Covid ultimately weakened in mortality rate, like most viruses do. We’re still going to be dealing with its aftermath for years to come. But we’re also past it being a major disruption to life here for the foreseeable future.

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I ask what vaccines they have been using all along...??? FarPoint May 2023 #1
AFAIK they refused any of that "western" type of vaccine Bengus81 May 2023 #9
That's because the vast majority of Trumpanzes are like this: AZ8theist May 2023 #39
They made their own and.... wolfie001 May 2023 #11
60% against the OG virus, at best... no doubt much worse against new strains LymphocyteLover May 2023 #18
China is pretty heavy into corporate espionage. If they must steal something... Mister Ed May 2023 #31
haha, true! LymphocyteLover May 2023 #40
No. 6 shot cilla4progress May 2023 #2
I was thinking the same thing TexasBushwhacker May 2023 #12
They've recommended (and approved) another bivalent booster for 65 and older. deurbano May 2023 #16
Plus another bivalent re-jiggered for the new dominant strains is due in the fall. PSPS May 2023 #22
That's good news! I hope they'll come up with the nasal spray sometime soon. deurbano May 2023 #24
Hopefully there'll be one for XBB 1.5 for us by Fall... nt Pluvious May 2023 #29
Also, immune compromised individuals also quality... FarPoint May 2023 #35
Yes, my daughter is in that category, and we got them at the same time a few weeks ago. deurbano May 2023 #38
The problem is STILL about having a lifelong disability from even a mild case. moreland01 May 2023 #3
Yes, I've also heard the "it was just a little sniffle so why are you so worried about it" BS. CrispyQ May 2023 #4
Google Ed Sheeran and Covid moreland01 May 2023 #5
Whaaaat? Traildogbob May 2023 #25
No one listens to the scientists, who are warning us, basically telling us, CrispyQ May 2023 #6
They're warning us about AI too. We don't seem to be equipped to deal with reality. Evolve Dammit May 2023 #8
Maybe the anti-vaxxers will trust what the AI COL Mustard May 2023 #13
I'm thinking about creating a new fun device for the holidays Rural_Progressive May 2023 #36
I think it would be a money-maker! A separate wheel would be what you should do about it. Evolve Dammit May 2023 #37
The most important thing is that billionaires continue to rake in profits Orrex May 2023 #7
"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic." hay rick May 2023 #14
The Las Vegas Strip saw 8.3b in gambling revenues last year ! Pluvious May 2023 #30
Is China actually putting out new numbers? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2023 #10
I don't think so TexasBushwhacker May 2023 #20
Sounds like Chinas is an intensive breeding-ground for deadly COVID variants. Martin68 May 2023 #15
what could go wrong, go wrong, go wrong.? AllaN01Bear May 2023 #17
There are a couple Florida men one retired and the other still in office who could give China advice gordianot May 2023 #19
More variants will come quickly that we don't know about IronLionZion May 2023 #21
How to handle it has always been complex Johnny2X2X May 2023 #23
I am going to China on Tuesday for a 2 week business trip WA-03 Democrat May 2023 #26
don't go. orleans May 2023 #32
Damn Traildogbob May 2023 #27
Thread trashed LW1977 May 2023 #28
????? nt orleans May 2023 #33
Thanks so much for this -. 'Need to get a vaccine haven't had one since 9/22. n/t Peregrine Took May 2023 #34
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