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11. I look at the Core, because its my understanding that's what the Fed focuses on and
Tue Jun 13, 2023, 09:58 AM
Jun 2023

considers the best predictor of FUTURE inflation (as do I). That's because energy and food price changes (components of the regular CPI but not the core CPI) are far more volatile and bounce around from month to month. The Fed can't change course based on a sudden one or two or a few months fuel price drop or increase, nor should they.

I haven't read anything differently. So I'm not particularly giddy bubbly boo about this inflation report. Au contraire, I'm disappointed that the core is stuck where its stuck at more than twice their 2% target.

As you probably know, I don't give a rat's ass about yoy changes, as I think they are less than virtually worthless in assessing CURRENT or RECENT inflation. In particular, the change in the yoy number from one month to the next is affected by 2 things, and only 2 things: the newly added most recent month (as of course it should), and the ancient ancient number that dropped out of the series 12 months ago.

I look at rolling 3 month averages for its recency, but less affected by a one-month outlier number than just using the lastest one month. I consider the rolling 3 month as sort of a smoothed version of the most recent

The rolling 3 months of the CORE CPI over the last 6 months:
4.3% 4.6% 5.2% 5.1% 5.1% 5.0%

The first number is the 3 month average Oct'22 - Dec'22
The second number is the 3 month average Nov'22 - Jan'23
The third number is the 3 month average Dec'22 - Feb'23
and so on with the last number being the 3 month average Mar'23-May'23

Obviously it's pretty much flat-lined at more than 2X the Fed's 2% target.

On housing prices - house prices aren't part of the CPI. They are considered an investment, not a consumption item. When a house is sold for a higher price, the previous owner gains while the new owner loses. I know that's controversial, but that's life in sucksville.

Rather they look at rent and owner equivalent rent (the latter an owner's estimate of what it would rent for. This is what the owner loses out on by occupying the residence rather than renting it out).

I've been hearing ever since September about how rent is a lagging number and how new rents are dropping and its going to make the CPI and CORE CPI wonderful. Ever since September. (Housing aka shelter is 40% of the Core CPI and 1/3 of the regular CPI if I'm remembering the numbers correctly).

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Good morning. From the source: mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #1
Thank you and good morning (and I finally got some rain yesterday so plants are happy)!! BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #3
Graphs (the Core CPI, which traditionally is the favorite measure of the Fed, is stubbornly stuck) progree Jun 2023 #2
Since I know you are tracking core CPI, I was curious... BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #6
I look at the Core, because its my understanding that's what the Fed focuses on and progree Jun 2023 #11
Agree that they have to use some non-volatile indicator BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #17
I'm sorry, but I think the core has plateaued for several months now progree Jun 2023 #19
I do know that you drop earlier data out to get the "current snapshot" BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #20
I look at several rolling average series - 1 month, 2 month, 3 month, 6 month, 12 months progree Jun 2023 #21
I know with all the chem, physics, and math courses that I took BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #23
Well, the FedWatch tool likes it -- odds of a pause moved from 79% yesterday to 93% just now progree Jun 2023 #4
Yup BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #7
Fantastic news Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #5
This is NOT good news.... Yavin4 Jun 2023 #8
Expect BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #9
My brother owns a business he says is very damaged... SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2023 #32
Anyone think that Powell and the Fed will drop interest rates?? Bengus81 Jun 2023 #10
They will if we reach the 2 pct inflation target. roamer65 Jun 2023 #12
Keep in mind BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #13
GOP will still complain about it IronLionZion Jun 2023 #14
Here are Maria Bartiromo and Rep. Buddy Carter searching for reasons to criticize Biden mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2023 #15
I love it when they complain about labor shortage and wage inflation IronLionZion Jun 2023 #16
Ironically BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #18
Thanks, President Biden! Mysterian Jun 2023 #22
Today's inflation report shows annual inflation is now at the lowest level since March 2021 LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #24
Bravo POTUS Biden!!! onetexan Jun 2023 #26
Chair Powell ended corporate greed. Thanks Chair Powell! mathematic Jun 2023 #25
Statement From President Joe Biden on May Consumer Price Index LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #27
The truth is DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #28
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #29
Not sure why this is cause for celebration BWdem4life Jun 2023 #30
Thank you President Biden LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #31
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