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83. The problem is that non-competitive candidates pick and mostly DON'T elect themselves

Fri Jun 23, 2023, 09:35 AM

Jun 2023

As I said before, I've met with Grayson (when he was ALSO running for Senate) and regardless of whether Republican lawmakers make the race difficult or not, I see nothing in him that tells me he'll be competitive on a Statewide level.

I'll observe that, if you read the entire thread, you'll see that people liked him because he made stirring speeches on the House Floor. Nobody has suggested he has the ability to win a statewide race.

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Alan Grayson files for U.S. Senate run in 2024 against Rick Scott [View all] Jose Garcia Jun 2023 OP

Great... nt AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2023 #1

He's like the hives. RandySF Jun 2023 #2

We need new progressive blood. Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #4

Yet similar "hives" on the RW side keep coming back and get elected while we focus on AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #59

Scott Grayson hit his first wife. RandySF Jun 2023 #69

I want someone with good ideas. If the voters of florida can elect a medicare scammer like Scott AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #76

I mean Alan Grayson. RandySF Jun 2023 #85

isnt he a member of DU? n/t gay texan Jun 2023 #3

Yes. He hasn't posted since 2016. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #16

When he was in office... 2naSalit Jun 2023 #22

Every post he made had a link to send him money. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #44

Yes, he is, he used to post here regularly... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #33

I must have missed something MadameButterfly Jun 2023 #5

Grayson is no progressive. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2023 #7

I'm against losers with personal problems. brooklynite Jun 2023 #18

"When I met with him, I came away thinking that 1) he think's he's brilliant and speak easy Jun 2023 #41

Is God running for something? If so, he hasn't called me. brooklynite Jun 2023 #47

We're not all firebrand progressives here Polybius Jun 2023 #89

... MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2023 #6

I agree. He's a liability. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #40

Every post he made here asked for $$$$$$$. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #45

Yes. He would be an embarrassment. He doesn't have the temperament or demeanor. WCDB! Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #67

Democrats with temperament and demeanor don't seem soldierant Jun 2023 #100

Florida is a very RED state. Running far-left candidates is not the way to win elections. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #102

Apparently I wasn't clear. soldierant Jun 2023 #104

The old adage about elections being won from the center still rings true, even now. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #106

This. Democratic professionals from colleagues in congress Hortensis Jun 2023 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jun 2023 #8

Not a good candidate to go against Scott. FloridaBlues Jun 2023 #9

He hit his first wife. RandySF Jun 2023 #10

And Scott was part of a medicare scam. AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #60

Somebody needs to defeat Rick Scott IronLionZion Jun 2023 #11

Good point - if Alan Grayson wins the Dem primary he deserves our support FakeNoose Jun 2023 #46

Any port MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #12

I always liked the way he got right in the GOP's face. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2023 #13

These days, you don't need a seat in Congress; you just need a social media account. brooklynite Jun 2023 #20

True, but doing it in Congress has more heft. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2023 #21

What effect did it have when Grayson did it on the House floor? brooklynite Jun 2023 #25

I'd say a lot more Congresspeople are now where he was twenty years ago. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2023 #26

No evidence that his speeches moved the ball. brooklynite Jun 2023 #27

No evidence they didn't either. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2023 #28

For some reason, Florida DEMOCRATS weren't impressed... brooklynite Jun 2023 #31

That's what I liked about the guy. canuckledragger Jun 2023 #48

I liked him a lot. He was a great voice advocating against the stupid unnecessary Iraq war and for mahina Jun 2023 #14

Emphasis on the "voice"... brooklynite Jun 2023 #19

Well, good luck. I guess he's better than Rick Scott. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #15

Oh no, another loon. Laffy Kat Jun 2023 #17

Because a tepid centrist, former Republican like Crist did so well AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #61

About the time his liberal colleagues in congress and the WH did. Hortensis Jun 2023 #73

I'd rather spend money winning elsewhere Polybius Jun 2023 #90

Earlier this week I had lunch with Sherrod Brown and various supporters.... brooklynite Jun 2023 #23

As a Floridian, I agree. He's not taken seriously here. Lochloosa Jun 2023 #29

Got someone better in mind? quakerboy Jun 2023 #35

I start with: I won't waste money on a hopeless campaign. brooklynite Jun 2023 #37

:) But competitive candidates pick, and mostly elect, themselves now. Hortensis Jun 2023 #74

The problem is that non-competitive candidates pick and mostly DON'T elect themselves brooklynite Jun 2023 #83

If FL was CA, some very competitive candidates would choose themselves Hortensis Jun 2023 #87

So you have no one in mind. ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #79

I generally won't either quakerboy Jun 2023 #113

From MY perspective, there's always an alternative. brooklynite Jun 2023 #118

Grayson's now angling for voters to give him the immense senatorial power Hortensis Jun 2023 #70

He will raise issues, but he scares voters away bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #24

Grayson is the antidote to MTG et al. Equalizer. Dems need to counter-punch and take the lead IMHO Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #30

I can see them now, yelling insults on the floor. "Equalizing." Hortensis Jun 2023 #65

Grayson saved his for comments out of the House chambers as I recall. Except maybe the Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #93

I remember that with some sympathy. But wasn't it related to Hortensis Jun 2023 #98

Great context for the larger machinations. It was sad to hear O say that if we had to do it all Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #101

If we had it to do again, who's to say we could have Hortensis Jun 2023 #103

Indeed. The fight goes on. I'm losing my idealism though. Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #107

I've never lost that, but I've been forced to accept that Hortensis Jun 2023 #108

True H. I just hope the arc of justice doesn't get hijacked more than it has been. Can't come fast Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #109

Bullet-proof desks! Me too. We have grandchildren also, and Hortensis Jun 2023 #110

1 of many "uniquely American problem(s)". We aren't passing on much if we can't get our s together. Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #114

Well, America saved itself when other nations fell to extremism's Hortensis Jun 2023 #116

All good points. I'll try filling my glass past half-way Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #120

I'm see you there. :) Hortensis Jun 2023 #121

I miss optimism... But you have really good reasons and FACTS that are so needed. Thank you Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #123

He can't win a statewide race in Florida though Polybius Jun 2023 #111

How did he win before? Evolve Dammit Jun 2023 #115

He never won a statewide race Polybius Jun 2023 #117

One of Harry Reids major mistakes SouthernDem4ever Jun 2023 #32

Oh lord THIS self important blowhard is back? UGH. oldsoftie Jun 2023 #34

Why has DU turned so hard against the liberal wing? AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #62

its not turning against a liberal its turning against a lying asshole. oldsoftie Jun 2023 #78

I've lived in Central Florida since 1957. rubbersole Jun 2023 #36

The Democrats who didn't vote for him were fooled by the "vast right wing machine"? brooklynite Jun 2023 #39

Obviously. rubbersole Jun 2023 #49

Do you think Buddy Dyer has a chance vs Scott or Gov in 26? carpetbagger Jun 2023 #55

Buddy Dyer doesn't have statewide name recognition... rubbersole Jun 2023 #91

he ran dishonest ads & refused to pull them when called on it. oldsoftie Jun 2023 #80

+1 Americans of Floridia are going to be the jury that convicts pendejo 45. ancianita Jun 2023 #84

This was recently a purple state. rubbersole Jun 2023 #92

So what's your point. ancianita Jun 2023 #94

My point is there are probably as many democrats as there are republicans. rubbersole Jun 2023 #95

The registration numbers say fewer, but who believes election commisioners in this state. ancianita Jun 2023 #97

I totally agree 👍. rubbersole Jun 2023 #99

Are you sure? Retrograde Jun 2023 #38

Me too! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jun 2023 #42

Great! Love Grayson! joet67 Jun 2023 #43

If he's the nominee I'll vote for him ... SarcasticSatyr Jun 2023 #50

He played well in 20 second TV blurbs, but Mawspam2 Jun 2023 #51

We know that FL, as a state, is conservative leaning, and Grayson is probably the worst choice... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2023 #52

Doesn't anyone else in Florida ever run? Always same folks Joinfortmill Jun 2023 #53

This. carpetbagger Jun 2023 #54

Look, I'd be the first to admit that Grayson can be abrasive. soldierant Jun 2023 #56

He won't be better than Scott (the Senator who's up in 2024) if he loses...which I think he will. brooklynite Jun 2023 #96

We can do better. He's unlikely to win. I hope a viable Democrat runs. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #57

Yet that side and run dipshits like Cruz and they are viable. AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #58

Well, "RW loons like Cruz" have a gerrymandering and incumbent advantage. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #63

Can't gerrymander the senate AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #64

That's a shame. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #66

Not so amazing... the U.S. makes it very easy to leave, but hard to enter. thesquanderer Jun 2023 #72

China has restricted passport issuance. AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #75

Thats RIDICULOUS. Is there any way a Senator or Rep can help?? oldsoftie Jun 2023 #81

We tried. Sinema ignored us. Kirkpatrick and Raul did nothing. Kelly did the bare minimum AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #82

Texas is a red state that hasn't elected a Democrat state-wide since 1994 Jose Garcia Jun 2023 #71

I know. Texans would vote republican for state office even if the republican vowed to kill each AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #77

I have been purged from voting multiple times in Texas PurgedVoter Jun 2023 #86

Lolol Polybius Jun 2023 #88

Grayson said of the GOP healthplan: Don't get sick -- but if you do get sick -- die quickly (Video) IcyPeas Jun 2023 #105

And what did that speech achieve? brooklynite Jun 2023 #119

Gwen Graham should give it a shot. I'd wager she'd get sufficient backing! oasis Jun 2023 #112

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