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Xolodno

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14. Battlefields can also be farms and bombed out cities.
Fri Jul 7, 2023, 07:14 PM
Jul 2023

And it costs a fortune to clear them out, the area will be a no mans land for years if not a decade. And there is still no guarantee you will get them all, so a farmer or some kids playing could still stumble on them. With mines, they mark the GPS coordinates for the areas you placed them, so you don't go blowing your self up should the tide of battle change. With cluster munitions, you can't do that, well at least not very well.

But wait, there's more! Areas you hit can kill your own soldiers as they don't know where these things landed either. Nail some Russian troops in a forest, bombed out town, etc. go in to take it when they retreat and boom. I believe its one of the reasons they stopped using them in Iraq and Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/magazine/cluster-munitions-history.html

For service members outside the bomb-disposal community, finding information on how to identify unexploded submunitions and details about the particular risks they pose has become a tedious scavenger hunt, if they even know to look for that information in the first place.


As for Crick, he returned to the United States after the war. The BLU-97s’ detonation in a ring of soldiers was among the most lethal battlefield incidents for Americans in the Persian Gulf war, and he dwelled on it upon arriving home. Former members of his unit recall that Crick had a history of heavy drinking, and by 1992 his marriage had unraveled, he was facing reprimand from his command for threatening his wife and he was probably going to be denied re-enlistment. In March 1992, dressed in a pressed uniform and polished boots, he shot himself in the basement of his Michigan home. He was 29, silenced by his own hand. His log book from As Salman, the first wartime record of the BLU-97’s lethal flaws, lives on.

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It is devastating how. Snackshack Jul 2023 #1
Awwww.... nuts Bayard Jul 2023 #2
War is hell Kennah Jul 2023 #3
"You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it" paleotn Jul 2023 #13
ok johndenny251 Jul 2023 #4
Yes, they need these munitions blue-wave Jul 2023 #24
ClusterF*ck them ruskies BlueWavePsych Jul 2023 #5
Peace, not war hueymahl Jul 2023 #25
No to appeasement of Putler. roamer65 Jul 2023 #36
The US killed a lot of children in Iraq with those weapons IronLionZion Jul 2023 #6
Something to consider Brother Buzz Jul 2023 #7
I hope so IronLionZion Jul 2023 #9
Battlefields can also be farms and bombed out cities. Xolodno Jul 2023 #14
US Soldiers and Marines killed a lotta children in Iraq with rifles Kennah Jul 2023 #39
Depleted uranium ammunition has been a public health disaster IronLionZion Jul 2023 #41
Since 1991 Kennah Jul 2023 #42
Russia has been targeting civilians since the start..... Historic NY Jul 2023 #8
Fully support our President on this decision. roamer65 Jul 2023 #10
+1 Kaleva Jul 2023 #11
Peace, not war hueymahl Jul 2023 #26
Bad decision -Cluster bombs kill children womanofthehills Jul 2023 #30
Russia steals Ukrainian children BeyondGeography Jul 2023 #35
From a civilian standpoint, this changes the situation on the ground 0% paleotn Jul 2023 #12
These will kill civilians long after the Ukraine-Russian war is over. former9thward Jul 2023 #17
100% hueymahl Jul 2023 #27
Are you accusing the Biden administration of supporting war crimes? Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #31
You were asked a reasonable. Are you accusing President Biden of a war crime? TomSlick Jul 2023 #33
Just an FYI....Ukraine has used cluster munitions before. Xolodno Jul 2023 #15
unexploded bomblets kill long after the conflict purr-rat beauty Jul 2023 #16
Has anyone who has lost limbs to cluster bombs been asked for an opinion? mpcamb Jul 2023 #18
Boggles the mind hueymahl Jul 2023 #28
You mean like Ukrainians? prodigitalson Jul 2023 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author mpcamb Jul 2023 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author mpcamb Jul 2023 #20
Whatever it takes to kill as many invaders as possible dalton99a Jul 2023 #21
Peace, not war hueymahl Jul 2023 #29
What happens when the other side doesn't want peace? Jose Garcia Jul 2023 #37
I recall a quote sarisataka Jul 2023 #44
I thought we outlawed those. sakabatou Jul 2023 #22
We did. jcmaine72 Jul 2023 #23
Yes, but the law allows the President to sign a waiver bypassing the restriction Jose Garcia Jul 2023 #32
I see sakabatou Jul 2023 #34
Putin should be screaming bloody murder about Biden's decision. NCjack Jul 2023 #38
Russia is already using cluster munitions with much, much higher dud rates Kennah Jul 2023 #40
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