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BumRushDaShow

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5. It's a neat trick that they do all the time (I have posted about it often)
Fri Sep 22, 2023, 05:20 PM
Sep 2023

They will take a bill that has already been passed by the House and sent to the Senate for consideration (whether it is the intended bill or some other related bill) and then they take their drafted language and once that version passes cloture, will then put up a motion to do an "Amendment as a Substitute" to the whatever House bill they are going to use, and basically wipe most of the House bill and replace it with their draft language in its entirety. Then assuming that passes the Senate, they will send it BACK to the House for consideration.

The House can then:

1.) Debate and vote on it "as is" in an up or down vote
2.) Seek to amend the amendment (requiring debate time and votes for each Amendment) and when done, vote on passage of the amended version to send BACK to the Senate
3.) Finally start getting serious and try to get some kind of "Joint" Conference together between the chambers with members from each working on some version that could pass both chambers, and then present THAT to their respective chambers for debate/vote "as is" (usually they'll try to come up with a Rule for no more Amendments or if they have any, they limit the number) and then the votes commence again.
4.) Ignore it and just let the government shut down while they work on whatever they were working on in all-nighters

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McCarthy!!!!!!!!!!! BootinUp Sep 2023 #1
LOL BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #2
How can the Senate go first? Frasier Balzov Sep 2023 #3
It's a neat trick that they do all the time (I have posted about it often) BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #5
The Parliamentarian lets them get away with that? Frasier Balzov Sep 2023 #6
What is faulty with it? BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #10
If germaneness is a requirement for amendments to plainly budgetary measures Frasier Balzov Sep 2023 #15
They usually find some kind of budgetary bill BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #17
I see. So germaneness is simply money to be spent anywhere. Frasier Balzov Sep 2023 #19
You're welcome - CSPAN junkie here BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #20
Fascinating history. You have a book coming out soon? erronis Sep 2023 #26
I think because of the internet and social media BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #28
I'm a current Fed COL Mustard Sep 2023 #34
There is a name for this trick. EndlessWire Sep 2023 #25
Yeah Wikipedia actually mentions that it is part of parliamentary procedures BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #29
This is why I love DU. yardwork Sep 2023 #33
They have a pretty slim majority (or whatever you want to call it) COL Mustard Sep 2023 #35
Answer to your question - of course BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #39
Interesting! So, theoretically, the Democrats could pass the bill. yardwork Sep 2023 #41
A simple majority in the House is fine but not the Senate BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #42
I saw at least one R, Lawler from NY saying they'd vote for something like this. IbogaProject Sep 2023 #43
I think a couple of the NY Republicans in flipped-to-R congressional seats, had expressed interest BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #44
I think a couple of the flipped-to-R NY congressional seat Republicans had expressed interest BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #45
Thank you! How do you know all this? Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2023 #38
Retired fed who is a CSPAN junky BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #40
Did McTurtle himself shut down? Blue Owl Sep 2023 #4
I'm so sick of this shit. Joinfortmill Sep 2023 #7
+1 orangecrush Sep 2023 #8
You are not alone. We have got to take back the House. LoisB Sep 2023 #16
I thought of Kennah Sep 2023 #9
LOL BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #13
Myself, I thought of a different Catherine O'Hara quote... sir pball Sep 2023 #31
I don't trust the turtle, even in this sitatuation. They are doing something sneaky. nt C Moon Sep 2023 #11
Hey, McCarthy? sheshe2 Sep 2023 #12
He had an unfortunate... um... BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #21
Ooops! sheshe2 Sep 2023 #23
I love high-speed photography! COL Mustard Sep 2023 #36
It's time to put an end to this trpuke made up funding crap yaesu Sep 2023 #14
This is different from the debt ceiling. COL Mustard Sep 2023 #37
Don't they first have to deal with the Senate dress code...? Grins Sep 2023 #18
The GOP Snackshack Sep 2023 #22
Excellent post!!! Every item is spot on. Yet, if the Democrats had done erronis Sep 2023 #27
True... Snackshack Sep 2023 #46
How could Schumer have expected any other outcome with the House Republican Clown Show? SunSeeker Sep 2023 #24
They knew BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #30
America foes and friends are having their annual chuckle and shake of the head at the worlds Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #32
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