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DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,509 posts)
26. From a laws of war standard
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 08:08 PM
Oct 2023

There isn't a set number or ratio. It comes down to necessity and proportionality. Basically an attack must be necessary and the advantage gained by the attack must be proportional to the harm done to innocents.

So, for example, bombing a 2 story building with a dozen innocents inside because 1 insurgent ran into the building is neither necessary nor proportional.

On the other hand, if a commander and his staff were in the same building, then it would meet the necessity requirement and the proportional requirement. Dealing a blow to the command of the enemy could ultimately save more than 12 lives in the long run. Even if the number of enemy killed is lower then the number of innocents, it would still be considered proportional due to the wider affect of the loss of a Commander and their staff.

Obviously there are a lot of gray areas to this, lots left up to interpretation, and can only be based on known information at that time.

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Monsterous WhiteTara Oct 2023 #1
Yes, it is. nt Brenda Oct 2023 #3
makes me wonder WhiteTara Oct 2023 #4
Why? Israel is accepting responsibility for this bombing. maxsolomon Oct 2023 #5
Ceasefire! LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #2
Why would anyone support a ceasefire TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #28
Why? LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #29
They are suffering TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #30
Yes, all ceasefire all the times LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #31
Thanks for confirming TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #32
Their defense failed LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #34
Murdering innocent children everyday womanofthehills Oct 2023 #46
Less about revenge, more about solving the problem EX500rider Oct 2023 #37
Well, Hamas needs to cease fire, too. yagotme Oct 2023 #41
Ceasefires only mean something when both sides want it to end for the right reasons. cstanleytech Oct 2023 #44
Your call for the elimination of Hamas would cost tens of thousands of innocents' lives. Magoo48 Oct 2023 #39
I mean, that's war right? TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #40
Beat the war drums, bomb and crush neighborhoods, Hamas killing randomly. Magoo48 Oct 2023 #45
Improper comparison: yagotme Oct 2023 #42
I doubt bombing densely populated areas is the best way to defeat Hamas IronLionZion Oct 2023 #6
I doubt Hamas is hiding out in the countryside in Gaza EX500rider Oct 2023 #7
Hamas are not the only people being killed, wounded, or losing their homes. IronLionZion Oct 2023 #8
Very few Wars have only Soldier casualties EX500rider Oct 2023 #9
Collective punishment is a war crime IronLionZion Oct 2023 #10
If Hamas is hiding in residential areas it is not EX500rider Oct 2023 #11
So what's an acceptable casualty ratio - 1 civilian for every 10 Hamas killed, 10 civilians for each Hamas, etc.? TheRickles Oct 2023 #21
Well 1st we won't know the ratio EX500rider Oct 2023 #22
Of course we won't know exactly. I was wondering what ratio would be OK if we had correct numbers. TheRickles Oct 2023 #24
I think the responsibility to get the civilians out of harms way is on their government EX500rider Oct 2023 #25
From a laws of war standard DetroitLegalBeagle Oct 2023 #26
Yes, lots of gray areas that are hard/impossible to calculate. TheRickles Oct 2023 #36
If hamas is the target of the punishment, it is not a war crime. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #18
So why don't they do something to stop Hamas ? JI7 Oct 2023 #14
AL -Quds hospital told to evacuate womanofthehills Oct 2023 #15
Former Congressman liberalhistorian Oct 2023 #12
Meanwhile Netanyahu must be happy that he gets to remain in power n/t AntiFascist Oct 2023 #13
Which is why I think he LIHOPed the Hamas attack. The Grand Illuminist Oct 2023 #17
For now Kennah Oct 2023 #43
I don't think Greek churches are an appropriate target Skwishy Oct 2023 #16
I don't think Greek churches are an appropriate hiding place for militants Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #19
I'm surprises that are any churches in Gaza Polybius Oct 2023 #20
There are quite few Christian Palestinians. Most are Catholic. LeftInTX Oct 2023 #23
I knew there were Christian Palestinians Polybius Oct 2023 #33
They have all been called animals LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #35
I watched a video of Hamas attackers orangecrush Oct 2023 #27
That's the strike that killed Justin Amash's family. James48 Oct 2023 #38
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