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68. The Army doesn't use the gun he had

Sat Oct 28, 2023, 04:22 AM

Oct 2023

The guns he used in training in the Army Reserve are secured on base and not for personal use.

"Army officials have affirmed that the weapons Card, a sergeant first class in the U.S. Army Reserves, allegedly used in the shooting were not Army-issued."

https://www.centralmaine.com/2023/10/27/few-details-known-about-gun-used-in-lewiston-rampage/

Besides, the Army doesn't have legal authority to confiscate privately owned guns not on government property

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Family of Maine shooting suspect says his mental health had deteriorated rapidly [View all] pnwmom Oct 2023 OP

No thought by the family of taking his guns away? ALBliberal Oct 2023 #1

Taking some level of responsibility FarPoint Oct 2023 #2

She said "this is not him". AllyCat Oct 2023 #4

If you'd read the article you'd know that the family TRIED to alert his Army base repeatedly, pnwmom Oct 2023 #8

I'm Sure His Assault Weapon Was Civilian DallasNE Oct 2023 #50

Why do you think he wouldn't have had access to guns on the base? n/t pnwmom Oct 2023 #56

I Served In National Guard 1962-68 DallasNE Oct 2023 #58

Early reports had said he was a firearms instructor, which is why it seemed likely pnwmom Oct 2023 #59

The Army doesn't use the gun he had Kaleva Oct 2023 #68

For your 40-year old brother? lostnfound Oct 2023 #36

How can they force a 40 year old man to give up his guns? Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #55

She declined to answer that question according to the report. AllyCat Oct 2023 #3

If you'd read the article, you'd know that the family DID alert authorities, repeatedly. pnwmom Oct 2023 #6

Apologies to all. My time is limited today and did not have time to read entire article. ALBliberal Oct 2023 #7

In this country taking away guns from some nut The_Casual_Observer Oct 2023 #32

If he is a Reservist COL Mustard Oct 2023 #35

His brother and wife (his father died in 2001) did, repeatedly, report him to law enforcement. nt pnwmom Oct 2023 #67

Maine law doesn't give law enforcement authority... Kaleva Oct 2023 #69

Gun laws in Maine... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #9

That's terrible. I hope the laws have improved since then. n/t pnwmom Oct 2023 #10

I doubt they have. 2naSalit Oct 2023 #13

Things are different 60 years later. ThreeNoSeep Oct 2023 #17

Pretty high bar for action. Thunderbeast Oct 2023 #22

YOU can not legally take property Thunderbeast Oct 2023 #21

Exactly. Family can take steps like that. They will be safer if they take away his guns. Martin68 Oct 2023 #26

Family tried to take one away from a Missouri shooter. Police had it in their hands... lostnfound Oct 2023 #40

Another one, brother tried to take gun away from 18 year old, 18 year old shot and killed lostnfound Oct 2023 #41

Another one. Woman begged police, but daughter and son now dead as well as another lostnfound Oct 2023 #43

This mother even begged gun store not to sell another gun to her daughter. They did. lostnfound Oct 2023 #46

What family? He was 40 years old and his father died in 2001. pnwmom Oct 2023 #60

Of course that is what they are going to say. RockRaven Oct 2023 #5

Plenty Of People RobinA Oct 2023 #42

Who are you talking about? The family consisted of one brother and his wife. pnwmom Oct 2023 #61

Nobody took any guns away because owning guns PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2023 #11

Would you try to disarm a 40 year old brother who was trained and armed pnwmom Oct 2023 #62

No one in my family owns guns, so I wouldn't have to PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2023 #73

You had said: pnwmom Nov 2023 #74

Beyond sick of this! Jean Genie Oct 2023 #12

And not just ANYONE. The Army base that he'd threatened were concerned pnwmom Oct 2023 #16

I don't know what law enforcement did. His Army Reserve commander referred him to the Keller Army Hospital which is on 24601 Oct 2023 #71

Welcome to DU LittleGirl Oct 2023 #33

That tends to happen when you listen to RW propaganda and bullshit all the time. Bev54 Oct 2023 #14

Not necessarily The Grand Illuminist Oct 2023 #72

Apparently Mainers voted down a "red flag" law, and only currently have a "yellow flag" law FailureToCommunicate Oct 2023 #15

Voices in the head? Hard to disprove GreenWave Oct 2023 #18

Families are HELPLESS to intervene! Thunderbeast Oct 2023 #19

Sorry, I don't buy that. With his history, no jury would find them guilty of anything. Martin68 Oct 2023 #27

I'm gonna back this up from a different perspective. AllyCat Oct 2023 #30

Have you walked a mile in the shoes of the situation you are replying to? lostnfound Oct 2023 #38

The Blame Game RobinA Oct 2023 #45

No sane family member would try to disarm a psychotic brother pnwmom Oct 2023 #63

I wouldn't try to take guns from an armed wack job? 3Hotdogs Oct 2023 #31

I would work on law enforcement until they took away a gun from either a relative or someone I knew who Martin68 Oct 2023 #54

Unfortunately, Maine law and laws of many other Rebpblican states, 3Hotdogs Oct 2023 #57

The brother and his wife repeatedly reported him to law enforcement, pnwmom Oct 2023 #64

I'm Sorry RobinA Oct 2023 #44

This all brings back a sad memory for me lanlady Oct 2023 #20

Did he serve in either of the Desert Storm campaigns or in Afghanistan...PTSD ghosts? Backseat Driver Oct 2023 #23

No, not from what I've read. Yeah, I was disgusted with Collins's answer, too. nt pnwmom Oct 2023 #24

"Family of Maine shooting suspect says his mental health had deteriorated rapidly." Martin68 Oct 2023 #25

He was allowed to buy that weapon this year because we no longer have pnwmom Oct 2023 #65

And perhaps his access to high-powered weapons .. SarcasticSatyr Oct 2023 #28

👆 Deuxcents Oct 2023 #29

Maine has lenient gun laws Zmarmy Oct 2023 #34

At the very least, reinstate the assault weapons ban. Oh, and welcome to DU. FailureToCommunicate Oct 2023 #39

Will he be judged "incompetent to stand trial" or "not guilty by reason of insanity"? Oopsie Daisy Oct 2023 #37

Yeah, well, lucky us. Paladin Oct 2023 #47

Don't forget: P01135809 loosened gun restrictions for people with mental health issues Novara Oct 2023 #48

Of course he did. Initech Oct 2023 #52

A steady diet of far right hate propaganda will do that to a person. Initech Oct 2023 #49

Did anyone think to turn the "high-powered" hearing aids off? maxsolomon Oct 2023 #51

authorities should have removed his guns maliaSmith Oct 2023 #53

DC and certain states have Red Flag laws that would allow for his guns to be confiscated. pnwmom Oct 2023 #66

Maine law doesn't allow that Kaleva Oct 2023 #70