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Eko

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73. What about the tunnels they dont find?

Mon Dec 25, 2023, 08:59 PM

Dec 2023

They are not going to give up the fight, they will meld with the populace and take it up again, that's what guerilla forces do throughout history. How do you see this ending? Is Israel really going to kill all of Hamas? Are the civilians of Gaza going to think Israel is their savior? Are they going to be like, sure, you just killed all of my close and extended family but you rock. Is Israel going to occupy all of Gaza for decades? Do you think there will be terrorist attacks on Israeli forces during that occupation? Is Israel going to rebuild Gaza? Are they going to just kick the people out? I really want to know how you think this is going to end up.

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Hamas, Islamic Jihad reject giving up power in return for permanent ceasefire, Egyptian sources say [View all] lapucelle Dec 2023 OP

But.... But.... It's Israel's Fault! Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #1

Seems pretty far fetched to expect Hamas to give up power. TeamProg Dec 2023 #2

And there it is!!! Sal_NV Dec 2023 #3

What are you saying is Israel's fault exactly? Let me ask you this: TeamProg Dec 2023 #5

I have never said that Israel is fault less with some of their actions in this current war in Gaza, Sal_NV Dec 2023 #6

You seem to be lacking some serious information: TeamProg Dec 2023 #11

Which has nothing to do with this rejection of a peace settlement. Sal_NV Dec 2023 #14

Who in their right mind would trust Netanyahu's gov't? Hamas should demand that Netanyahu steps down as well if TeamProg Dec 2023 #15

And therein lies the problem, Sal_NV Dec 2023 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Sal_NV Dec 2023 #18

"Hamas should demand..."? Hamas is a terrorist group. lapucelle Dec 2023 #31

Who in their right might would trust Trump's government? Kennah Dec 2023 #39

How do you think Netanyahu's actions are going to work out? More peace or more terrorism? I'm sure we'll TeamProg Dec 2023 #95

Israel set up a blockade because of terror attacks by Hamas, simple as that elias7 Dec 2023 #7

My B.in Law is Jewish. He can't fucking STAND what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians. And check this out:: TeamProg Dec 2023 #13

Yes, that is common knowledge. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #22

"Some of my best friends are Jewish"... Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #33

That came waaaaay after the fact that I presented. You'll need TeamProg Dec 2023 #38

What goal post are you talking about? Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #44

+1 this is exactly fucking right. Fucking piece of shit Hamas terrorists don't get to dictate a motherfucking thing. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #106

There'a particular irony in your assertion Torchlight Dec 2023 #49

Netanyahu didn't make the decision to attack and murder innocent civilians back in October as that is all on Hamas. cstanleytech Dec 2023 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #24

For whom are you speaking when you write "Explain to us all"? lapucelle Dec 2023 #25

Didn't take long mcar Dec 2023 #9

Yeah it seems farfetched a terrorist group like Hamas EllieBC Dec 2023 #4

Yah, that's probably what King George thought of the colonial Americans.. And there is this: TeamProg Dec 2023 #10

I'm wondering how cavalier many here would be EllieBC Dec 2023 #16

Ah, so you want the Palestinians to finally be peaceful as the Native Americans are now after being oppressed, sickened, TeamProg Dec 2023 #19

Hamas again rejected a ceasefire, not "the Palestinians". lapucelle Dec 2023 #27

I wouldn't blame if they did. al bupp Dec 2023 #32

"that's probably what King George thought of the colonial Americans" EX500rider Dec 2023 #51

Terrorists don't surrender. They don't care about suppressed people. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #20

And precisely how does that differ... al bupp Dec 2023 #34

Netanyahu and his like are not billionaires. Hamas is an international billionaire playboy club. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #35

And yet i doubt that they would accept an agreement that required them to cede power al bupp Dec 2023 #37

Imagine if Europe took that POV with Hitler. MyNameIsJonas Dec 2023 #104

I'm sorry, but ... al bupp Jan 2024 #107

Not when you're dealing with a group whose stated purpose is exactly like Hitler's. MyNameIsJonas Jan 2024 #108

Sir, your rude and insulting response only proves my point al bupp Jan 2024 #109

You've got to be kidding... this is your response to Hamas giving the middle finger to their own people? Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #26

Nope. Not even a bit is accurate jimfields33 Dec 2023 #41

"occupied and invaded" EX500rider Dec 2023 #50

Germany and Japan surrendered at the end of WW2 Jose Garcia Dec 2023 #97

Guess they don't care about their own people mcar Dec 2023 #8

Hamas has gotten what they planned for and hoped, they will not accept any peace terms andym Dec 2023 #12

And Netanyahu FELL right into their hands and their plans. Stupid, just fucking stupid, Bibi. It was TeamProg Dec 2023 #21

It was indeed a trap set for Netanyahu and Israel based upon their historical responses and stated policies. NT. andym Dec 2023 #23

Once again, Hamas has rejected a cease fire. lapucelle Dec 2023 #28

And that is the reason it's ok for Hamas to keep rejecting truce proposals? Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #29

Why would they accept a truce proposal? Eko Dec 2023 #36

That was one of my points. Hamas has no intention to act on behalf of or for the sake of Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #42

That's one point of view. Eko Dec 2023 #45

If they were at all concerned about Gaza civilians, they wouldn't have started this war in the first place. Eko Dec 2023 #46

I'm saying that Hamas wouldn't likely HAVE the power they do now had Netanyahu NOT propped them up over TeamProg Dec 2023 #43

Of course they would! Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #54

Wrong. If Netanyahu had supported Abbas and a Palestinian state, Hamas would not have the influence they TeamProg Dec 2023 #56

So where was I wrong? Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #57

And what was choice B for Israel after 10/7? EX500rider Dec 2023 #52

Not bomb civilians. Eko Dec 2023 #53

So do nothing I guess? EX500rider Dec 2023 #55

I never said do nothing. Eko Dec 2023 #58

The US was fighting 3,000 to 4,000 terrorists, not 40,000 with a extensive tunnel network EX500rider Dec 2023 #59

You do realize that there are different cities in Gaza? Eko Dec 2023 #60

Don't know the number but I imagine the majority of them were EX500rider Dec 2023 #61

Well, you can imagine what you want but that doesnt help your argument here at all. Eko Dec 2023 #62

Unless you have numbers you are just guessing also EX500rider Dec 2023 #63

It would be SOP not to have the majority of your forces in one place. That includes one city. Eko Dec 2023 #64

I doubt they are the commuting to work types EX500rider Dec 2023 #67

And most of them lived in Gaza city? Eko Dec 2023 #69

If that is the heaviest populated city in Gaza I would assume so EX500rider Dec 2023 #71

Yeah, you are assuming. Eko Dec 2023 #72

Usually the bigger the city the more important it is EX500rider Dec 2023 #75

How many military people do we have in NY city? Eko Dec 2023 #77

The US military has actual military bases our troops are at, I imagine during a invasion it would have a lot EX500rider Dec 2023 #78

For many, many reasons you are wrong. Eko Dec 2023 #80

Very rare to give up a capital/large city without a fight EX500rider Dec 2023 #82

But that is not what you are talking about is it? Eko Dec 2023 #83

Hamas is way to cowardly to fight in the open, and they have low mobility EX500rider Dec 2023 #85

I would recommend looking into guerilla warfare. Eko Dec 2023 #87

You are talking about guerilla warfare as it applies with room to hide and mountains & woods to hide in EX500rider Dec 2023 #89

I said with our special forces and elite soldiers Eko Dec 2023 #91

Even our specisl forces wouldn't do it much different EX500rider Dec 2023 #92

Even the dune buggy's that the SF use can carry much more firepower than those motorcycles can. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #93

Lets further this "most of Hamas" were in Gaza city. Eko Dec 2023 #65

I assume they left in tunnels EX500rider Dec 2023 #66

What corner? Eko Dec 2023 #68

As the IDF advances south they will destroy the tunnels as they go EX500rider Dec 2023 #70

What about the tunnels they dont find? Eko Dec 2023 #73

I think what's left of Hamas will go underground of course EX500rider Dec 2023 #74

Who are going to be members of the new government? Eko Dec 2023 #79

I know if my government attacked a much more powerful neighbor... EX500rider Dec 2023 #94

'Permanent" ... What a joke! Hamas has promised to continue their terror attacks. keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #30

Stand firm! Don't surrender! Prigozhin didn't. Kennah Dec 2023 #40

So it is about power and control republianmushroom Dec 2023 #48

So I read all 48 responses to the OP and not one moniss Dec 2023 #76

This news story has the details of the Egyptian plan. lapucelle Dec 2023 #81

That is more detail but unfortunately it just moniss Dec 2023 #84

I'm sure that the Egyptians will be sorry to hear that you are dismayed. lapucelle Dec 2023 #88

I'm unconcerned with moniss Dec 2023 #90

There was already a ceasefire and exchange process in place TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #96

I don't think you understood my moniss Dec 2023 #98

Putting the futile blame game aside for a second . . . Aussie105 Dec 2023 #86

The Egyptian proposal was not a "futile blame game". lapucelle Dec 2023 #100

Of course the GD Butchers of HAMAS Won't Agree Cha Dec 2023 #99

Thank you Cha for being an outspoken advocate for the crimes of Hamas. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #101

You're Welcome, MCE... Cha Dec 2023 #102

Ditto. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2023 #103

🕯️🕊️💙🌊🏝️🌈 Cha Dec 2023 #105