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11. Don't you know that facts don't matter when it comes to Israel? nt

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Hamas says it won't take part in Gaza hostage-ceasefire deal talks [View all] Ramsey Barner Aug 2024 OP

No sh*t, sherlock. elleng Aug 2024 #1

They are the worst characters in this from day one. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #77

Yeah, that's about what we'd expect from a terrorist regime. Orrex Aug 2024 #2

Israel? AloeVera Aug 2024 #8

Educate yourself elias7 Aug 2024 #9

Lol. N/T AloeVera Aug 2024 #13

We have. That's why we don't support the genocidal far right regime. canuckledragger Aug 2024 #17

Some folks can't even admit Israel broke the last truce ColinC Aug 2024 #19

Yeah, those folks include Israel, Hamas and the UN, among many others. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #84

Sans the UN and Hamas, you are right. ColinC Aug 2024 #88

We did indeed cover the topic ad nauseum. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #89

Thankfully I am not. ColinC Aug 2024 #92

So your authority is Hamas? Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #97

I was disputing your claim that Hamas doesn't think Israel broke the ceasefire. ColinC Aug 2024 #98

I appreciate your olive branch, but not at the expense of accepting a faulty argument. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #101

"...prior to its designated expiration" ColinC Aug 2024 #102

That's the period of time in question, isn't it? Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #104

Sort of. I think the situation is fairly complicated. ColinC Aug 2024 #106

Awww, you shouldn't be so hard on HAMAs, MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2024 #20

What does Canada have to do with this? NT BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #31

Every country has an interest in preventing genocide. canuckledragger Aug 2024 #34

Post removed Post removed Aug 2024 #40

And you're in for a short stay here. canuckledragger Aug 2024 #42

The global community rejects your genocide of First Nations. NT BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #44

The global community rejects the far right Israeli governments' genocide against it's neighbours. canuckledragger Aug 2024 #45

The Canadian flag is that member's avatar. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #62

No one supports a genocidal regime, although those who support Hamas make me wonder elias7 Aug 2024 #81

Israel is accused of genocide because that's what they've been doing. canuckledragger Aug 2024 #82

I disagree. How are you defining genocide? What time frame are you using? elias7 Aug 2024 #113

Yes you can accuse the far right Israeli government of genocide as they've been caught doing it. canuckledragger Aug 2024 #114

Good advice. But I think it's too late. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #149

Very funny. 🙄 ShazzieB Aug 2024 #56

I don't know if you are aware... AloeVera Aug 2024 #122

Did I hear correctly? Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #135

You are quite wrong. Again. AloeVera Aug 2024 #136

I am quite not wrong, as your excerpts in post 133 and 134 clearly show: Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #148

Someone doesn't want Cease Fire Now. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #3

Israel BROKE the last ceasefire ColinC Aug 2024 #4

Israel DIDN'T BREAK the last ceasefire. Resumption of hostilitiees is what happens when cease fires expire. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #5

I literally just cited a credible source (The UN) showing they broke it ColinC Aug 2024 #6

You didn't even figuratively cite a credible source. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #7

Don't you know that facts don't matter when it comes to Israel? nt MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2024 #11

I am so naive. I keep reacting to this as if it is something that shouldn't be tolerated. So behind the times! Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #14

The truce expired on Dec 1. ColinC Aug 2024 #18

I noticed that you left this part out. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2024 #21

I notice you left out that was after the shelling Israel conducted on Nov 30 ColinC Aug 2024 #26

Thank you, was about to post the same thing. AloeVera Aug 2024 #24

"If Israel does it it's okay" ColinC Aug 2024 #28

Expiration of truce: Dec 1. Shelling and killing: November 29 and 30 ColinC Aug 2024 #16

You are not reading the sources Al Jazeera cites either. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #22

You are playing fast and loose with the truth ColinC Aug 2024 #23

You didn't read the part of the OCHA report I bolded either, didja? Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #25

You seem to think that report you boldened supports your claims, but it doesn't. ColinC Aug 2024 #27

I only have one claim: the cease fire you claim was violated, was not violated. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #32

"minutes after the truce expired" elias7 Aug 2024 #10

The truce expired on December 1. The shelling and killing began November 29 and 30. ColinC Aug 2024 #15

There was no shelling reported. The circumstances of the shooting remain unclear. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #33

From your post above: ColinC Aug 2024 #36

My mistake. There were reports of killing without shelling, and reports of shelling without casualties. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #38

It changes it entirely. Shelling of any kind is violating the ceasefire ColinC Aug 2024 #39

No it does not. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #48

A "ceasefire" means "ceasing fire" ColinC Aug 2024 #53

The US Department of State says Hamas broke the ceasefire. lapucelle Aug 2024 #60

Respectfully ColinC Aug 2024 #61

Oh. So you're calling Antony Blinken a liar? ShazzieB Aug 2024 #64

No. ColinC Aug 2024 #69

Same difference. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #74

You think that the UN is more credible than the US Department of State? lapucelle Aug 2024 #68

So do I. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #73

I think the UN is less partial than the United States ColinC Aug 2024 #78

The US delegation (among other Western democracies) has called out the UN for NOT being impartial. lapucelle Aug 2024 #90

I appreciate the resources you are sharing and plan to look at them in the near future. ColinC Aug 2024 #94

Thank you for that. lapucelle Aug 2024 #96

My advice is to take whatever Qatari state media publishes with a large grain of salt lapucelle Aug 2024 #91

Al Jazeera is funded in part by the Qatari government but is a largely independent news organization. ColinC Aug 2024 #93

Al Jazeera is Qatari state media and an unreliable narrator. lapucelle Aug 2024 #95

"I think the UN is less partial than the United States" That's funny! EX500rider Aug 2024 #137

Thanks!! ColinC Aug 2024 #138

Also do you have a link to the study or a article you are referencing? ColinC Aug 2024 #139

here: EX500rider Aug 2024 #146

Now That No. 61 You Posted Above, Sir, That Is Some Serious Bullshit The Magistrate Aug 2024 #151

That's what their genocide enablers claim at least. canuckledragger Aug 2024 #83

So, let me get this straight... Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #46

Perhaps you can't blame somebody who doesn't want to negotiate with people who have proven not to be reliable ColinC Aug 2024 #52

Such as Hamas? Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #70

I stand against Netanyahu AND Hamas. You should stand against them too. ColinC Aug 2024 #72

Hamas broke the ceasefire. lapucelle Aug 2024 #58

This is different BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #30

the far right israli government claims a lot of things that aren't so canuckledragger Aug 2024 #35

The far right Hamas murderers deserve no quarter. NT BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #41

Neither does the genocidal far right Isreali government. canuckledragger Aug 2024 #43

Yep. . .Hamas is innocent and pure. Israel is evil. If they didn't exist, there'd be no problems. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2024 #86

Well, this is just a TOTAL shock. AloeVera Aug 2024 #12

How dare Israel fight back! Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #29

Yes. Yes it is. AloeVera Aug 2024 #47

If you missed the snark, which I doubt, I was referring to the passage immediately preceding it. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #51

I was having fun with you. AloeVera Aug 2024 #54

You have a rather strange and quite self-deprecating notion of what fun is. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #71

Oh ok. AloeVera Aug 2024 #76

Ismail Haniyeh was no moderate JohnSJ Aug 2024 #37

I agree. That'w why the air quotes. AloeVera Aug 2024 #49

Oh and I just saw your "obscene" comment. AloeVera Aug 2024 #50

That is what the sarcasm tag is for. Sorry that I am so dense and cannot JohnSJ Aug 2024 #63

All right. Point taken. AloeVera Aug 2024 #66

I was referring to the comment as obscene. I would never call a fellow DUer as JohnSJ Aug 2024 #67

I really appreciate that. AloeVera Aug 2024 #75

I apologize too. AloeVera Aug 2024 #79

FFS iemanja Aug 2024 #55

Don't wonder. AloeVera Aug 2024 #109

Any negotiations are nothing but PR moniss Aug 2024 #57

Naturally. They don't want peace. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #59

Kind of hard to trust the people who killed your last chief negotiator AloeVera Aug 2024 #65

Poor Hamas! The terrorist in charge of "negotiating" is dead, and his replacement is scared lapucelle Aug 2024 #100

Joke all you want. Dismiss the blatant, successful sabotage. AloeVera Aug 2024 #103

Eliminating the terrorist leaders responsible for October 7 lapucelle Aug 2024 #105

Thank you for making my point. AloeVera Aug 2024 #107

So your point is that terrorist Haniyah was superior to terrorist Sinwar lapucelle Aug 2024 #110

I do not care to argue about the comparative evil of 2 men. AloeVera Aug 2024 #111

It was you who introduced the topic of the comparative evil of dead terrorist Haniyah lapucelle Aug 2024 #112

Again, I only care about the impact on the Palestinian people. AloeVera Aug 2024 #115

Hamas has made it abundantly clear that it doesn't care about the impact of the war on Gazans. lapucelle Aug 2024 #116

Hate to break it to you, but Hamas did accept it. AloeVera Aug 2024 #119

What are you talking about? lapucelle Aug 2024 #125

You are behind the times. By two months. AloeVera Aug 2024 #126

What are you talking about? Has the Biden administration changed its position lapucelle Aug 2024 #128

And anyone claiming "Google is your friend" lapucelle Aug 2024 #130

And Hamas doesn't want to move forward with "Biden's framework". lapucelle Aug 2024 #127

Now you're 3 months behind. AloeVera Aug 2024 #134

August 8, 2024 BBC News: "Israel Accepts Proposal to attend 'urgent' new ceasefire talks" lapucelle Aug 2024 #140

And the analogy is offensive. lapucelle Aug 2024 #117

Is there a difference between a terrorist org and a terrorist state? AloeVera Aug 2024 #121

What are you even talking about at this point? lapucelle Aug 2024 #123

John Kirby understands that Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. lapucelle Aug 2024 #118

Even John Kirby can't see into the future. AloeVera Aug 2024 #120

What John Kirby said was true then and is true now, and the US Department of State has reiterated its position lapucelle Aug 2024 #124

They have already said their goal is to commit more terrorism and kill more Jews. keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #80

K&R betsuni Aug 2024 #85

Of course, this is Israel's fault 100%. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2024 #87

Perhaps Hamas is not participating because terrorist Haniyah is dead and terrorist Sinwar is hiding. lapucelle Aug 2024 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Aug 2024 #108

Interest on a ceasefire... Mike Nelson Aug 2024 #129

Boty Netanyahu and Hamas wants no peace kansasobama Aug 2024 #131

At this point JustAnotherGen Aug 2024 #132

This O/P omits the important part. AloeVera Aug 2024 #133

The terrorists want their secret counterpropsal to be the starting point of negotiations? lapucelle Aug 2024 #141

If you could just put aside your interest in Haniyeh's dress and grooming habits for a moment, and listen. AloeVera Aug 2024 #143

Haniyah was an interesting study in billionaire terrorists, lapucelle Aug 2024 #144

Folks plaintively whining on *social media* about the Hamas point of view lapucelle Aug 2024 #145

Wtf are you talking about? AloeVera Aug 2024 #150

What on earth are you talking about? lapucelle Aug 2024 #153

Ah, the art of plausible denial. AloeVera Aug 2024 #156

Touched A Nerve, Did She? The Magistrate Aug 2024 #154

Ah, you gave away the plot there. AloeVera Aug 2024 #155

It Was An Observation On the Content Of Your Posts, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2024 #157

Yeah, sure. AloeVera Aug 2024 #158

Speaking of losing an argument gracelessly. Beastly Boy Aug 2024 #159

You're Getting Pretty Deep Into 'Hit Hog Hollers' Territory, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2024 #160

I am enjoying my chamomile tea, not crying into it. AloeVera Aug 2024 #163

Your Nobility Moves Me To Such a Degree That ... Words Fail Me... The Magistrate Aug 2024 #164

Is something bothering you? AloeVera Aug 2024 #165

'The Bleatin' O' the Kid Incites The Tyger' The Magistrate Aug 2024 #166

It's been edited. lapucelle Aug 2024 #161

Ah, Well: As My Daughter Used to Say 'It's All Fun Till Someone Pokes Their Eye Out --- Then It's Hilarious! The Magistrate Aug 2024 #162

"If you truly want peace, you do not insist that there can be no peace until your enemy is absolutely destroyed" EX500rider Aug 2024 #147

Unfortunately, there are stalwart defenders of the Hamas point of view lapucelle Aug 2024 #142

Palestinians have a Hamas problem kansasobama Aug 2024 #152