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58. All Americans are, in a sense, subject to the sorts of lies spewed by Fox.

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:04 PM

Dec 2012

Fox banks on the reality that Americans believe that the US is exceptional and that we represent freedom, justice and liberty.
Anyone who challenges these notions is discounted as anti-American. Therefore we don't see or hear those in authority questioning Fox's veracity.
For a country that claims to defend the free exchange of ideas we really tolerate only a very narrow range of them.
Our system is good, therefore other systems are not as good.
Because we perceive that America is best, we vilify perfectly reasonable ideas and policies (like socialism) making it impossible to consider making changes that might benefit most of us.
Even DU works to scrub "radical" ideas from the public discourse, if not by design then by default, due to the many voices that shout down any ideas that challenge the status-quo.

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr: Fox News Has Divided Country In A Way Not Seen Since Civil War [View all] Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 OP

He must be a highly perceptive man with great deductive reasoning skills. Scuba Dec 2012 #1

??? truebluegreen Dec 2012 #17

Lame attempt at sarcasm. Anybody and everybody can see what he's describing. Scuba Dec 2012 #26

It wasn't a lame attempt. I got it right away. nft plethoro Dec 2012 #28

My bad. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #30

Fairness Doctrine liberalmike27 Dec 2012 #42

Thanks for reminding me . . . Still Blue in PDX Dec 2012 #57

I have been listening to 760AM-Denver and 92.1 Madison WI since KPOJ left us high and dry classof56 Dec 2012 #73

Reagan, of course, was the president in 1987. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #59

President in name only as, by 1987, according to several sources, Reagan coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #68

Very true. Howard Baker was really the President. eom greyghost Dec 2012 #69

It might have started in 1962. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #75

and Keith was on Comedy Central DBoon Dec 2012 #74

Actually he was on MS-NBC dreamnightwind Dec 2012 #90

The Fairness Doctrine was, at best, a red herring cprise Dec 2012 #86

So true. FlyinButter Dec 2012 #107

No problem. Yes, RFK jr is to be admired, as was his father. Scuba Dec 2012 #62

I remember it well... truebluegreen Dec 2012 #76

That is exactly how it has felt. love_katz Dec 2012 #94

I was in Europe that fall of 1980, watching the campaign, truebluegreen Dec 2012 #106

22% of Americans can't see what he's describing iemitsu Dec 2012 #51

Good response, thanks. You know, Fox can't do this alone. Most of the media is complicit ... Scuba Dec 2012 #60

Yes, to all you say. iemitsu Dec 2012 #67

Someone once posted... love_katz Dec 2012 #95

Hear, hear. iemitsu Dec 2012 #101

Why the lame attempt at putting him down? Fox viewers can't see what he's describing, pnwmom Dec 2012 #88

It was definately NOT an attempt to "put him down" , but to ... Scuba Dec 2012 #99

Unfortunately, millions of Fox followers aren't smart enough to see it. pnwmom Dec 2012 #100

I think many of Fox's viewers know they're being used, but they're more comfortable ... Scuba Dec 2012 #102

Yep, and Rupert Murdoch is working to buy up more media outlets in the US so he can RKP5637 Dec 2012 #2

We can't allow that. dawn frenzy adams Dec 2012 #15

You should also post this, I think, as an OP for visibility if not already done. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #25

And Obama's FCC is getting ready to help. woo me with science Dec 2012 #19

In the big picture, no, I'm not surprised. It's just another WTF moment in my life of RKP5637 Dec 2012 #24

First I've heard of this; thanks for passing it on. pacalo Dec 2012 #37

It's mostly the same . . . GatorLarry Dec 2012 #72

Please use the correct adjective to describe our party. llmart Dec 2012 #78

What happened to anti trust laws? Nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #27

Amazing, isn't it ... we now seem to be a country that embraces monopolies and stifles RKP5637 Dec 2012 #32

I imagine Bain Clear Channel may have some more outlets for sale soon ThomThom Dec 2012 #38

And We Continue To Wait For A Challenger! mazzarro Dec 2012 #39

If we continue to allow them to buy up media and broadcast propaganda then frankly RKP5637 Dec 2012 #44

Won't happen. Joe Bacon Dec 2012 #64

Point well taken, but don't forget Rush. Faygo Kid Dec 2012 #3

ABC and the Rise of Rush Limbaugh Octafish Dec 2012 #23

It started with Rev Moon, the Korean cult leader and longtime crony (since the 60s) of GHWBush. blm Dec 2012 #34

Some people because of their behavior becom history's villans. Rush is one. kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #36

I noticed it, too... IthinkThereforeIAM Dec 2012 #48

The problem is that Fox so-called News viewers pandr32 Dec 2012 #4

Sadly, that's exactly what they think. Everything else is just liberal lies. Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #13

They've got the unwitting dupes The Wizard Dec 2012 #18

I think some viewers are figuring it out ThomThom Dec 2012 #40

EXACTLY!!!!!!!! "Obama needs to speak directly to the people more ... RKP5637 Dec 2012 #45

This is not hyperbole. rainin Dec 2012 #5

Exactly Johnny2X2X Dec 2012 #6

Have you noticed that conservatives The Wizard Dec 2012 #20

Remember when Romney laughed? rainin Dec 2012 #22

Just last week, my brother in law was quoting the "Obama bowing to Muslims" crap mountain grammy Dec 2012 #35

We are witnessing the brainwashing of America into possibly another civil war of RKP5637 Dec 2012 #47

And where do their "facts" come from? dreamnightwind Dec 2012 #91

The Righ Wing has become a group fo true believers vinny9698 Dec 2012 #7

All Americans are, in a sense, subject to the sorts of lies spewed by Fox. iemitsu Dec 2012 #58

Can you expand on this? Flatulo Dec 2012 #77

The Fairnes Doctrine was established to make sure that iemitsu Dec 2012 #80

Oh, I wasn't implying that you're a Conspiracy Theorist... Flatulo Dec 2012 #85

Full of shit? I wouldn't be that harsh. Uninformed, definitely. rainin Dec 2012 #81

I appreciate your reasoned response, and I don't question the 90% figure for Flatulo Dec 2012 #84

Kennedy, Jr. is a smart man. America would do well to heed his warning.nt ladjf Dec 2012 #8

Much as Eisenhower's warning about the Military Industrial Complex was RKP5637 Dec 2012 #49

A lot of people watch way too much TV slackmaster Dec 2012 #9

+1. My in-laws are big FOX watchers, and they always seem to have the tv on. Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #55

My in-laws too and I have never heard ordinary people spew such crap. Their minds have been twisted. Democratopia Dec 2012 #104

It's like they are Citizen KKKane LynneSin Dec 2012 #10

Now, now, now... both sides do it. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2012 #11

Exactly! SoapBox Dec 2012 #12

I want the old man to finally die. Sorry. smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #63

He's exactly right. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #14

It is best John2 Dec 2012 #16

I think that's a good point. malthaussen Dec 2012 #43

Every time Fox News blackdiamond62 Dec 2012 #21

This is our Second Civil War. onehandle Dec 2012 #29

Problem is, a lot of like minded people are just too fucking soft. Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #93

So true abelenkpe Dec 2012 #31

Are TPTB of this country naive, or just complicit and complacent, just cogs in a machine RKP5637 Dec 2012 #33

Not just Fox News, Rush Limbaugh et al Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #41

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #46

Fortunately, the internet... Aviation Pro Dec 2012 #50

America has the best disguised propaganda machine the world has ever seen liberal N proud Dec 2012 #52

but that's the thing - it ISN'T disguised Skittles Dec 2012 #54

I agree, Skittles. love_katz Dec 2012 #98

They Preach Hate And Fear Blunt477 Dec 2012 #53

There's no denying that Fox News has been very harmful to our country.. rainlillie Dec 2012 #56

This goes back to the 90's. blkmusclmachine Dec 2012 #61

Fox is absolutely a wing of repub party Robo47 Dec 2012 #65

Rupert "Goebels" Murdock, enemy of the United States Robo47 Dec 2012 #66

All for the richest 1% and their corporations & now they want it all including slave labor! LaPera Dec 2012 #70

One need only read Profiles In Courage TinCup Dec 2012 #71

Any insight into what can be done about it? rainin Dec 2012 #82

kennedy is wrong- fox is a tick on talk radio's ass certainot Dec 2012 #79

I had kind of the same sentiment. There really is no counterpart to Talk Radio, Flatulo Dec 2012 #87

RW talk & "Christian" radio are all that's on some places Patiod Dec 2012 #108

You are so right. Fox has destroyed families. kimbutgar Dec 2012 #83

This is scary as hell Kennah Dec 2012 #89

If it's civil war they want, then I am ready!!! Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #92

I've been preaching about the takeover of America defacto7 Dec 2012 #96

My mother and young sister's brains were highjacked by Fox News. lexw Dec 2012 #97

The Obama administration has done a terrible job at communicating its message, Democratopia Dec 2012 #103

It's kinda become a rite of passage kydo Dec 2012 #105

Another activist, Chris Hedges, warning of a coming Civil War: rainin Dec 2012 #109