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In reply to the discussion: Robert F. Kennedy Jr: Fox News Has Divided Country In A Way Not Seen Since Civil War [View all]rainin
(3,246 posts)81. Full of shit? I wouldn't be that harsh. Uninformed, definitely.
There is a political spectrum in this country (well, everywhere) that I believe resembles a normal distribution (the classic bell-shaped curve).
There is a political spectrum.We have more democrats than republicans, but the numbers hover around the 50% mark in elections. But programming is nowhere near a normal distribution. Not even close. Approx. 90% of talk radio is RW. Progressive and Liberal radio shows are disappearing. 90% might be low as that percentage doesn't reflect the losses we've sustained since 2005.
I think the reason why people on the left go absolutely apoplectic over Fox is that they don't accept that 90% of their programming is opinion (propaganda)
No, the reason we despise Fox is that they lie. They misrepresent the truth. They character assassinate. They create a reality that divides our country. MSNBC has shows that do that too, all in favor of RW'ers. The liberals we have... the FEW liberals we have on MSNBC tell the truth. (If you want to argue this, you might be asked to give an example. Warning: it's easy to find examples of Fox lies. I doubt you can find a single lie from Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Ezra Klein and the few other liberals we have at MSNBC.
I personally don't feel that Fox is tearing the country apart. I believe that the divisions we see are real, genuine differences in perceptions of what the role of government should be, what kind of society we want to be
You are entitled to your opinion, but I'm afraid that it isn't a very informed one. You haven't been paying attention. People can disagree and have different opinions, but they can't have meaningful discourse if they have different "facts". Fox spews lies so fast, it is impossible to keep up with it.
I have pulled up a 3 minute clip of a Fox Business and stopped it every time I caught a lie or misrepresentation and dissected it. It takes 2 seconds to say the lie but several minutes to explain why it is false. They can weave so many lies in segment, it is virtually impossible to refute.
What Roger Ailes has built is truly dangerous to democracy.
There is a political spectrum.We have more democrats than republicans, but the numbers hover around the 50% mark in elections. But programming is nowhere near a normal distribution. Not even close. Approx. 90% of talk radio is RW. Progressive and Liberal radio shows are disappearing. 90% might be low as that percentage doesn't reflect the losses we've sustained since 2005.
I think the reason why people on the left go absolutely apoplectic over Fox is that they don't accept that 90% of their programming is opinion (propaganda)
No, the reason we despise Fox is that they lie. They misrepresent the truth. They character assassinate. They create a reality that divides our country. MSNBC has shows that do that too, all in favor of RW'ers. The liberals we have... the FEW liberals we have on MSNBC tell the truth. (If you want to argue this, you might be asked to give an example. Warning: it's easy to find examples of Fox lies. I doubt you can find a single lie from Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Ezra Klein and the few other liberals we have at MSNBC.
I personally don't feel that Fox is tearing the country apart. I believe that the divisions we see are real, genuine differences in perceptions of what the role of government should be, what kind of society we want to be
You are entitled to your opinion, but I'm afraid that it isn't a very informed one. You haven't been paying attention. People can disagree and have different opinions, but they can't have meaningful discourse if they have different "facts". Fox spews lies so fast, it is impossible to keep up with it.
I have pulled up a 3 minute clip of a Fox Business and stopped it every time I caught a lie or misrepresentation and dissected it. It takes 2 seconds to say the lie but several minutes to explain why it is false. They can weave so many lies in segment, it is virtually impossible to refute.
What Roger Ailes has built is truly dangerous to democracy.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr: Fox News Has Divided Country In A Way Not Seen Since Civil War [View all]
Adenoid_Hynkel
Dec 2012
OP
I have been listening to 760AM-Denver and 92.1 Madison WI since KPOJ left us high and dry
classof56
Dec 2012
#73
President in name only as, by 1987, according to several sources, Reagan
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#68
Good response, thanks. You know, Fox can't do this alone. Most of the media is complicit ...
Scuba
Dec 2012
#60
Why the lame attempt at putting him down? Fox viewers can't see what he's describing,
pnwmom
Dec 2012
#88
I think many of Fox's viewers know they're being used, but they're more comfortable ...
Scuba
Dec 2012
#102
Yep, and Rupert Murdoch is working to buy up more media outlets in the US so he can
RKP5637
Dec 2012
#2
You should also post this, I think, as an OP for visibility if not already done. n/t
RKP5637
Dec 2012
#25
In the big picture, no, I'm not surprised. It's just another WTF moment in my life of
RKP5637
Dec 2012
#24
Amazing, isn't it ... we now seem to be a country that embraces monopolies and stifles
RKP5637
Dec 2012
#32
If we continue to allow them to buy up media and broadcast propaganda then frankly
RKP5637
Dec 2012
#44
It started with Rev Moon, the Korean cult leader and longtime crony (since the 60s) of GHWBush.
blm
Dec 2012
#34
Some people because of their behavior becom history's villans. Rush is one.
kelliekat44
Dec 2012
#36
Sadly, that's exactly what they think. Everything else is just liberal lies.
Arkansas Granny
Dec 2012
#13
Just last week, my brother in law was quoting the "Obama bowing to Muslims" crap
mountain grammy
Dec 2012
#35
We are witnessing the brainwashing of America into possibly another civil war of
RKP5637
Dec 2012
#47
+1. My in-laws are big FOX watchers, and they always seem to have the tv on.
Adsos Letter
Dec 2012
#55
My in-laws too and I have never heard ordinary people spew such crap. Their minds have been twisted.
Democratopia
Dec 2012
#104
Are TPTB of this country naive, or just complicit and complacent, just cogs in a machine
RKP5637
Dec 2012
#33
America has the best disguised propaganda machine the world has ever seen
liberal N proud
Dec 2012
#52
All for the richest 1% and their corporations & now they want it all including slave labor!
LaPera
Dec 2012
#70
I had kind of the same sentiment. There really is no counterpart to Talk Radio,
Flatulo
Dec 2012
#87
The Obama administration has done a terrible job at communicating its message,
Democratopia
Dec 2012
#103