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Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
44. Speaking of fallacies...
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 09:26 PM
Feb 2025

"All you have to do to justify" atrocities is not an accusation against anyone trying to to justify anything. It is a declaration of the consequences of your line of argumentation which shows a fatal flaw in it. Your argument is flawed regardless of anyone trying to justify anything.

Just as "fact that people can become so desperate, they resort to violence, or may support groups that they otherwise might reject" is not a fact but a speculation, a speculation that demonstrates the aforementioned flaw in pellucid clarity. While you are not, as you previously have, mentioning Hamas and violence to gain leverage, you nevertheless maintain your original position that there is no limit in justifying atrocities if only the degree of desperation, in the eyes of the perpetrators, warrants it.

You are not the first one promoting this universally refuted proposition.This is the logical extreme in following the Macchiavelian "end justifies means" maxim.

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Trump will fix all of this IronLionZion Feb 2025 #1
Well Donnie? It's your responsibility now Walleye Feb 2025 #2
True, but he doesn't ACCEPT responsibility for anything! ShazzieB Feb 2025 #39
Not surprising but so tragic for the hostages and their families. Any way you cut it, the killing will continue sadly dutch777 Feb 2025 #3
I guess trump told netanyahu that jared is ready to start building those resorts. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #4
So who's at fault now? The IDF continued air strikes or Hamas' suspension of hostage release? brush Feb 2025 #5
Hi brush, AloeVera Feb 2025 #54
I'm with you on warmoner Netanyahu. IMO he'll do anything he can to not let... brush Feb 2025 #55
Sure, the ethnic cleansing part. AloeVera Feb 2025 #56
Whether it's for resorts or plots for loyalists, I know the warmoner wants the Gazans gone. brush Feb 2025 #57
Sadly agree. AloeVera Feb 2025 #61
Damn it...... Lovie777 Feb 2025 #6
Here is Hamas' statement LeftInTX Feb 2025 #7
"Zionist prisoners" Archae Feb 2025 #8
Have you sern the condition of the Palestinian prisoners? AloeVera Feb 2025 #52
doesn't sound that way, but if they don't meet their commitments by the 15th, I bet it will be off then. Native Feb 2025 #9
Gaza Blow UP is coming with Donald Trump wanting Gaza and Hostages looking hungry Oneear Feb 2025 #10
Both sides have delegations in Qatar right now maxsolomon Feb 2025 #11
Hi maxsolomon. Not much left to bomb. From space, Gaza looks like a wasteland. C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #18
That is a remarkable graphic. Mike 03 Feb 2025 #37
Hi Mike 03. Boy, did you say it. After the 2004 Battle of Fallujah, the US left Depleted Uranium (DU) residue. C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #40
"who knows how much toxicity is baked into the Gaza environment now?" Close to none? EX500rider Feb 2025 #46
Hi EX500rider. Thanks. That was an example of post-war toxicity, like the radiation left in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #47
That was a rhetorical question. We know it's been decimated. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #62
The IDF is much more powerful than Hamas and still holds thousands of Palestinians in security detention without trial. C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #12
A slight clarification is needed Richard D Feb 2025 #13
Hi Richard D C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #15
Are you rationalizing... Richard D Feb 2025 #16
Hi Richard D. I'm just explaining what the adversary does and why. That was my job for 27 years vs Al Qaida, ISIS, GRU. C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #17
No, this is not an explanation. It is an an attempt at false equivalency. Beastly Boy Feb 2025 #19
how many were not? quakerboy Feb 2025 #21
But you DO know that NONE of the hostages have been through ANY legal process, don't you? Beastly Boy Feb 2025 #24
that is true. quakerboy Feb 2025 #42
That wouldn't introduce legitimate equivalency at all. Beastly Boy Feb 2025 #43
The idf has pounded the west bank constantly during the ceasefire questionseverything Feb 2025 #32
It IS a different war. Beastly Boy Feb 2025 #36
Bold TiberiusB Feb 2025 #23
Under this premise, all you have to do to justify hostage taking, Beastly Boy Feb 2025 #25
uh, no TiberiusB Feb 2025 #41
Speaking of fallacies... Beastly Boy Feb 2025 #44
Ave! to a fellow Roman. Thank you for your comment and the links. Keep an eye on this femme fatale: C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #27
Charges against Netanyahu were filed in 2019. Mosby Feb 2025 #48
Hi Mosby, how are you? Let me bring you up to speed on Bibi's corruption trial. C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #49
Hey look at this. Mosby Feb 2025 #50
Hi Mosby. How are you? Thank you, I saw that report. Bibi has a mini-Watergate problem going. C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #58
I'm OK, thanks for asking. Mosby Feb 2025 #59
Perhaps your salt intake has to be adjusted. C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #60
It's true that Israel holds alot of low level prisoners who deserve to be free. However, Hamas does not want those LeftInTX Feb 2025 #26
Sure Jan Avalon Sparks Feb 2025 #22
The overwhelming majority of prisoners that have been released so far have gone through due process. Beastly Boy Feb 2025 #29
Source for that please? FullySupportDems Feb 2025 #31
Just a small sample I looked up in my spare time. By no means complete: Beastly Boy Feb 2025 #38
I find your cartoon to be offensive. Please delete it. yardwork Feb 2025 #28
Now what are you going to do for me, yardwork? C0RI0LANUS Feb 2025 #34
Gee, and trmp saying he will turn Gaza into a resort town louis-t Feb 2025 #14
My guess is, Hamas either ran out of living hostages or can't find them. Beastly Boy Feb 2025 #20
USAID doesn't exist to provide food and relief to Gaza. yardwork Feb 2025 #30
The evil one and Israel's leader have worked hand in hand questionseverything Feb 2025 #33
They Need to Give Them Some Food Deep State Witch Feb 2025 #35
Here is some of the actual article iemanja Feb 2025 #45
Not new news mikewv Feb 2025 #51
Because that's the day I posted it, at 11:55 a.m. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2025 #53
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