Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,997 posts)
96. Trump officials fume at Zelenskyy for disregarding advice before meeting
Sat Mar 1, 2025, 09:01 PM
Mar 2025

This may not have been a staged stunt but trump's over-reaction to President Zelenskyy not following the script that trump want to present to the world. trump wanted to sign the rare earths/raw earths mineral deal that had on security guarantees to score a political victory. trump want to "discuss" securities guarantees at a later date (perhaps after Putin was declared the victor and got everything he wanted. President Zelensky brought up security guarantees and what we saw on Friday was an over-reaction to trump not getting what he wanted.

Trump officials fume at Zelenskyy for disregarding advice before meeting: Officials say minerals deal would serve as commitment to US security guarantee and Ukraine leader shouldn’t have pressed issue

Inside the Trump White House, officials blamed the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, for…

#TuckFrump (@realtuckfrumper.bsky.social) 2025-03-01T21:14:12Z


Trump officials fume at Zelenskyy for disregarding advice before meeting: Officials say minerals deal would serve as commitment to US security guarantee and Ukraine leader shouldn’t have pressed issue

Inside the Trump White House, officials blamed the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, for…



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/01/trump-officials-zelenskyy

Inside the Trump White House, officials blamed the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, for the meltdown in the Oval Office on Friday, and expressed frustration that he pushed for security guarantees even though the US had made clear they wanted to negotiate that later, according to people familiar with the matter.

The officials had told their Ukrainian counterparts in advance of the meeting that Trump wanted to sign an economic partnership this week at a ministerial level, as aides worked on the details about security guarantees.

Trump saw the minerals deal as the first phase of a broader economic partnership and told aides it showed the US was effectively making a commitment on security guarantees, because the agreement deal would mean the US had a vested interest in Ukraine’s economic prosperity.

The officials believed that had all been communicated to Ukraine, as was the advice that senators gave Zelenskyy on Friday morning to praise Trump and not litigate the issue of wanting stronger security guarantees to his face.

To Trump’s aides, Zelenskyy did not heed that advice when he expressed skepticism at JD Vance’s view of making peace with Russia and, in their view, lectured the US vice-president on the history of Russia’s aggression towards Ukraine that started in 2014 with the annexation of Crimea......

Trump officials said privately on Saturday that Trump still wants to sign the minerals deal, but an immediate reset appeared unlikely with Trump scheduled to attend a fundraising dinner for the Maga Inc super political action committee in Palm Beach and Zelenskyy’s departure from the US for the UK......

Appearing on Fox News that evening, Zelenskyy referred to Ronald Reagan’s dictum that “peace is more than just an absence of war” and suggested that because Putin had broken dozens of ceasefire agreements already, more work was needed to reach “a just and lasting peace”. Trump appeared unimpressed when he boarded Marine One en route to Palm Beach, telling reporters[b ] that Zelenskyy needed to say publicly that he wanted to make peace and stop saying “negative things” about Putin.

trump trusts Putin and wanted this rare earths/raw earths mineral deal without explicit security guarantees becuase trump trusts Putin. President Zelensky was correct in NOT trusting Putin which pissed off trump and Vance.

To me this means that Friday was not a planned event but another example of trump's temper/stupidity getting in the way of negotiating a real peace.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

WTF was Vance doing there? speak easy Feb 2025 #1
Vance is just being a weenie. NotHardly Feb 2025 #4
"Hey look Donnie! I can be abusive just like you!" unblock Feb 2025 #10
Musk must have ordered it. twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #12
Putin ordered it, Muskrat carried the message maybe irisblue Feb 2025 #68
Bingo IB DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #78
It's Scut Farkus and Grover Dill. Alice B. Feb 2025 #21
An "A Christmas Story" reference! SergeStorms Feb 2025 #27
*curtsy* Alice B. Feb 2025 #38
Spot on! IrishAfricanAmerican Feb 2025 #54
Yellow eyes! boonecreek Feb 2025 #66
He's there to have Dump's back. SergeStorms Feb 2025 #35
I haven't heard the whole thing, but the Guardian's live blog make Vance look like the prime arsehole muriel_volestrangler Feb 2025 #50
It seems like what irked Vance most was Zelensky disrespecting Putin! Emrys Feb 2025 #90
Musk is busy stealing our money johnnyfins Feb 2025 #56
It was a total setup by Vance and Trump Bev54 Feb 2025 #59
Trying desperately to appear relevant while sucking up to drumpf JoseBalow Feb 2025 #87
Excellent question! red dog 1 Mar 2025 #95
Trumperica is now part of Russia. twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #2
He was ambushed by two a**es trying to look tough. ellemb Feb 2025 #3
Fascist Asses... MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #7
Why in the name of everything holy did America elect these basturds??!!? lastlib Feb 2025 #5
They responded to trumps fear mongering. Omnipresent Feb 2025 #11
We were schooling other countries about freedom post WW2 while....... wolfie001 Feb 2025 #14
I'm still not convinced they did. SergeStorms Feb 2025 #29
Need to let Zelenskyy know cilla4progress Feb 2025 #6
I didn't see the whole thing, but I didn't see Zelenskyy involved in an argument unblock Feb 2025 #8
You are correct, no doubt about it. Trump even went to blaming Obama, Bush, Clinton, Biden and something about twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #15
He's really out there. SergeStorms Feb 2025 #31
Russia Russia Russia was all from hunter biden's bathroom! unblock Feb 2025 #46
Just in case you forgot Ray Bruns Feb 2025 #58
Trump outright called former President Biden "stupid" several times. maddiemom Feb 2025 #65
At this point it is a bit unnerving to even say I am an American. twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #67
Trump yelled and yelled some more. Made threats. It was as ugly as ever. twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #9
Seems like tRump just turned a positive stock market day into yet another negative day. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2025 #13
WTF! Bayard Feb 2025 #16
Ugh BrianTheEVGuy Feb 2025 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Feb 2025 #17
Just watched the two on one leanforward Feb 2025 #18
One of the reasons I've heard that the newly-elected German person (don't remember name) Macron, and in2herbs Feb 2025 #19
Continuation: I now understand why JD was present in the meeting: F47 doesn't have the brains to in2herbs Feb 2025 #30
There's another possibility ... it might have been Pootie's idea FakeNoose Feb 2025 #45
No Deal!!! The Madcap Feb 2025 #20
President Zelenskyy, I can't express how deeply embarrassed I am that you had to endure that orange piece of shit sit LaMouffette Feb 2025 #22
Here's the briefing. OnlinePoker Feb 2025 #23
Great Catch Y"all, Thank You!!! MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #33
And here, it goes off the rails OnlinePoker Feb 2025 #41
*Following a growing argument between the two, Trump said that Ukraine isn't in the position to set the terms elleng Feb 2025 #24
Watch the video- It's VANCE who lights the match on this explosion KatyBR Feb 2025 #88
Zelinsky knows Trump will never give him anything jgmiller Feb 2025 #25
European Countries Have Already Offered Alternatives To The US Mineral Deal MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #36
A criminal traitor and a couch fucker trying to bow up against a patriot and democratic freedom fighter... LudwigPastorius Feb 2025 #26
He came about as close as he could to doing it jgmiller Feb 2025 #37
Looks like the Krasnov-Turd traitor really lost his shit today with a patriot like Zelenskyy Tarzanrock Feb 2025 #28
Trump seems to keep saying thinkingagain Feb 2025 #32
Then slobfather had the gall to call Zelensky disrespectful Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2025 #39
I just watched a BBC clip of the exchange....WTAF! KewlKat Feb 2025 #40
President Zelenskyy has left the building......early KewlKat Feb 2025 #42
I hope VZ gets out of the country safely. (nt) Pinback Feb 2025 #77
We have arrived. Our country now has no sense of decency. NowsTheTime Feb 2025 #43
True Dat KewlKat Feb 2025 #44
Nope. Just the felon. The felon has no sense of decency. Look at the outrage across DC & the country. ancianita Feb 2025 #81
No mineral deals signed, White House confirms muriel_volestrangler Feb 2025 #47
Trump needs to be removed from office.... Jughead Feb 2025 #48
How's this for 'outside the box'? Fix The Stupid Feb 2025 #49
Sadly, no one should trust Russia.. NowsTheTime Feb 2025 #51
Ukraine doesn't need the US. paleotn Feb 2025 #52
can't trust the Russians lapfog_1 Feb 2025 #53
Shame on Republican Senators, Shame on Mr. Mustard 2023 Feb 2025 #55
asshole has been stewing about revenge since Z blew him off Kali Feb 2025 #86
Too much golf can make one a violent person. The evidence is convincing. twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #57
Bullies are immature toddlers 😡 TommieMommy Feb 2025 #60
The United States has turned into a huge embarrassment mdbl Feb 2025 #61
Now let's sit back and see how the media covers this. Who's winning? We aren't, my friends, we aren't. twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #62
We have given 65 billion in military aid to Ukraine nowforever Feb 2025 #63
Geez - I lay down for an hour or so to read and once again all hell has broken out. Vinca Feb 2025 #64
now i get it . asked what did i miss on another thread . the situation does not compute . i just would AllaN01Bear Feb 2025 #69
I'm Betting Putin Called Trump And Told Him To Blow This Thing Up DallasNE Feb 2025 #70
No American President has ever looked weaker on the world stage than Trump did today. n/t TheBadWolf Feb 2025 #71
Trump Did A Great Impersonation Of Neville Chamberlain Today DallasNE Feb 2025 #74
He thinks talking over people is somehow a show of strength valleyrogue Feb 2025 #72
Good grief. "You're not acting at all thankful. It's not a nice thing." PSPS Feb 2025 #73
Dumpy and vance met their match...can't deal with the truth PortTack Feb 2025 #75
You've got to be more thankful!!!! Hope22 Feb 2025 #76
That was even more disgusting than the Access Hollywood tapes Bluetus Feb 2025 #79
Trump trying to treat Zelensky the way Musk's kid treated Trump 4catsmom Feb 2025 #80
Trump wants him to grovel kskiska Feb 2025 #82
Shouldn't we declare war on Ukraine before dictating peace terms? bluedigger Feb 2025 #83
JFC - WTH - I am truly embarrassed to be an American right now. notinkansas Feb 2025 #84
"You are not allowed to talk" WHOA PuraVidaDreamin Feb 2025 #85
This seems Rebl2 Feb 2025 #89
Fuck Trump! hamsterjill Feb 2025 #91
All theatre for Putin tonekat Feb 2025 #92
If I was younger and in better health I'd leave this shit hole country. OverBurn Feb 2025 #93
Treated Zelenski like Musk's toddler treated Trump. travelingthrulife Feb 2025 #94
Trump officials fume at Zelenskyy for disregarding advice before meeting LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2025 #96
Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Zelensky, Trump get into ...»Reply #96