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1. If only he'd been allowed to carry a gun there, he could've defended himself...

Reply to another_liberal (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 11:42 AM

Feb 2013

Seriously, this sounds like a horrible murder. Absolutely disgusting. I'm glad they caught the guy. It seems so deliberate, you have to wonder which someone wanted a war hero dead so bad he'd go after him on a rifle range. Personal grudge?

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(On edit: I see now that the main suspect is another vet suffering from PTSD and that allegedly the Kyle and the other murder victim had gone to the shooting range to counsel the guy. This is a terrible tragedy. But it shows that even those whom society trusts with gun are capable of making judgment errors that lead to needless deaths. The fact remains that the death-by-gun rate in communities with strict gun laws is significantly lower than the rate in areas without them. Even if you think guns don't kill people but people do, we can't outlaw people but we can regulate guns.)

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'Most lethal sniper in US history': Chris Kyle shot dead on Texas gun range. [View all] another_liberal Feb 2013 OP

If only he'd been allowed to carry a gun there, he could've defended himself... Bucky Feb 2013 #1

Ha ! Woulda beat you on that one if I didn't stop to fix that typo ! n/t CincyDem Feb 2013 #5

PTSD bluedigger Feb 2013 #8

Do we know that the PTSD wasn't a ruse Ilsa Feb 2013 #38

The backstory has yet to develop. bluedigger Feb 2013 #41

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #67

And yet... TeeYiYi Feb 2013 #72

LOL RiverNoord Feb 2013 #83

Ha! Bucky Feb 2013 #81

Think about those words "gone to the shooting range to counsel the guy" BlueStreak Feb 2013 #43

Yes but Fred could only cry in your beer and Rick's chicken can only peck you! nt Walk away Feb 2013 #62

"We can't outlaw people but we can regulate guns" klook Feb 2013 #49

It was a veteran with PTSD? another_liberal Feb 2013 #75

Amen. Bucky Feb 2013 #78

I'm sure he would have been fine if... CincyDem Feb 2013 #2

That's beside the point. caseymoz Feb 2013 #18

Well, you know, what could possibly go wrong? Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #39

I KNOW! Those pesky no-gun zones are putting us all in mbperrin Feb 2013 #61

It's incredible that the guy at the top of the gun ownership pyramid... Walk away Feb 2013 #88

Really does lend credence to the statistic that simply owning a gun makes it mbperrin Feb 2013 #93

Oh well. jsr Feb 2013 #3

It's not a ho-hum thing, JSR. This is what gun regulation is supposed to stop. Bucky Feb 2013 #6

Here is an inkling as to Kyle's views on gun control.. left coaster Feb 2013 #19

When US government snipers give up their guns, then we'll talk about gun-control Ter Feb 2013 #29

Explain your reasoning. thucythucy Feb 2013 #35

No Ter Feb 2013 #71

You want the government to disarm? Really? Bucky Feb 2013 #74

I think we should stop the wars, thucythucy Feb 2013 #79

I don't think gun control laws are intended to address this sort of thing BlueStreak Feb 2013 #63

Oh, obviously. Nothing will stop every gun murder in America. Bucky Feb 2013 #70

Agreed. nt. BlueStreak Feb 2013 #95

Gun regulation wouldn't apply to Iraq where most of his life's portion of shooting was done. JackRiddler Feb 2013 #68

I admire your talent for making irrelevant comments. Bucky Feb 2013 #73

Hmmmmmmmmmm Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2013 #4

+1 valerief Feb 2013 #9

I think you're ignoring something pretty big here. Bucky Feb 2013 #10

lol it's not murder if it was an iraqi? Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #12

It's not murder if it's in a battlefield, no. And a sniper, if you think about it... Bucky Feb 2013 #16

Actually, I'd say it is murder on a battlefield. truebluegreen Feb 2013 #28

You certainly *can* say that. But you got to keep in mind... Bucky Feb 2013 #32

i'm afraid i can't be so blaise about killing Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #65

No one's more offended than me about the all-war policy Bush started in 2002 Bucky Feb 2013 #77

Of course its murder bowens43 Feb 2013 #87

Well, Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2013 #13

Well, there's certainly a link between the sword he bore and the sword he fell by. Bucky Feb 2013 #15

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Message auto-removed homerunner Feb 2013 #25

I don't think you understand what "die by the sword" means. Bucky Feb 2013 #27

Message auto-removed homerunner Feb 2013 #31

There is some interesting karma roody Feb 2013 #37

To be completely frank . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #84

As if snipers don't murder people. You might want to watch (or re-watch) coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #50

Huh? bowens43 Feb 2013 #86

I think he is getting at the notion of karma daleo Feb 2013 #90

aw you beat me to it! Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #11

... tama Feb 2013 #20

If only he'd had the latest in gun-implant surgery--a gun implanted in valerief Feb 2013 #7

LOL - For some reason, I am flashing on the SNL video short "Laser Cats" :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #53

Ha! Just saw it. Funny!!!! nt valerief Feb 2013 #60

You can disagree with someone's view - but why he made up that story lunasun Feb 2013 #14

Most deadly sniper on the battlefield, shot and killed at home NickB79 Feb 2013 #17

Live by the sword, die by the sword... n/t thatgemguy Feb 2013 #23

I believe the deadliest sniper in US history... Bigmack Feb 2013 #21

Wow, talk about ironic. Bucky Feb 2013 #22

WTH? Hathcock was a wonderful human being and saved many lives Recursion Feb 2013 #44

Chill. It was a joke about his name. Bucky Feb 2013 #51

Hathcock also didn't go around beating his chest and bragging about coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #57

Chris Kyle far surpassed Carlos Hathcock Mortos Feb 2013 #33

Wasn't there anyone around carrying guns at a gun range? Festivito Feb 2013 #24

People infatuated with guns get shot a lot and shoot other people a lot too. Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #30

This is some sad wisdom, my friend, and very Lincoln-esque, I might coalition_unwilling Feb 2013 #59

Maybe it was self defense. Kyle doesn't seem like a very law and Jumping John Feb 2013 #34

I guess he wasn't that big of a fan of the first amendment then... Arrowhead2k1 Feb 2013 #96

Every one of you who responded to the OP with more cutesy snark against gun owners... derby378 Feb 2013 #36

+1 Travis_0004 Feb 2013 #42

"He saw four tours (of duty) in Iraq, during which he was shot twice... nenagh Feb 2013 #46

No one is disrespecting Kyle. They are disrespecting the stupid argument that if everyone appleannie1 Feb 2013 #52

Please explain how responding to this with "oh well" is anything but disrespect. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #54

What Does It Say About A Country And Its Culture That Has To Rely On Snipers? cantbeserious Feb 2013 #80

Thaaaaaat's a shame alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #40

Yeah, it really is Recursion Feb 2013 #45

There is an incredible amount of unbelievable shit-ass rotten foulness in this thread. WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #47

Yep. People aren't actively cheering it but some are coming pretty close. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #55

I can't tell from the faint echo which moral high ground you're yodeling from. Bucky Feb 2013 #56

Gee, a man with a gun was killed by a man with a gun. Whoda thunk. appleannie1 Feb 2013 #48

Predictable responses. eom tawadi Feb 2013 #58

Yes, logical, too, but gun lovers will still persist with their old has-been mbperrin Feb 2013 #64

I have my dad's Bronze Star here on my wall. Just one. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #66

My father was a weapons expert and an officer in the Army Rangers. Walk away Feb 2013 #91

I can't wrap my mind around killing over 150 people. loudsue Feb 2013 #69

if only he had a gun as the NRA keeps saying. graham4anything Feb 2013 #76

I wonder why the folks at the range didn't stop the killer from leaving the scene? peace13 Feb 2013 #82

that question is truly the one I want to know tomm2thumbs Feb 2013 #89

Even the truck tires made it out alive! peace13 Feb 2013 #92

it does beg the question tomm2thumbs Feb 2013 #94

Just goes to prove - lynne Feb 2013 #85

As a vet, serious friggin irony here...I feel bad for his family, the best sniper out to Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #98

I have a feeling this is a business related killing. go west young man Feb 2013 #97

Another example of when "more guns will fix things" was the wrong answer. Electric Monk Feb 2013 #99

Live by the sword (gun) die by the sword. iemitsu Feb 2013 #100

Locking as a duplicate. Thanks for understanding. Here's the link... uppityperson Feb 2013 #101