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67. I don't know the specifics of Michigan law, but in most states there is no requirement for parity...

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:15 PM

Feb 2013

...of weapons in a robbery situation. A credible threat of death or bodily injury is sufficient to justify defensive use of force even if the person making the threat is unarmed. An elderly man who confronted by two much younger men is certainly at a disadvantage unless he is well armed.

The prosecutor is absolutely right to investigate the incident thoroughly. If it turns out that there was no credible threat, the shooter's claim of self-defense should be challenged.

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1 dead, 1 injured in shooting near Detroit high school [View all] michreject Feb 2013 OP

I grew up in that neighborhood as a child nt MrScorpio Feb 2013 #1

I use to go to a Bar in that neighborhood michreject Feb 2013 #3

"They were comin' right for me!!" Robb Feb 2013 #2

Where did the Quote come from? michreject Feb 2013 #4

South Park Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #6

Sounds like they were. Archae Feb 2013 #5

Die, of course michreject Feb 2013 #7

Right now we have one dead 16 year-old and a 15 year-old in the hospital. Robb Feb 2013 #8

The shooter was breaking the law michreject Feb 2013 #10

Do you have more info than the link provides? bluedigger Feb 2013 #13

here is local news link raidert05 Feb 2013 #15

A 70 year-old reserve officer? Robb Feb 2013 #19

Hell raidert05 Feb 2013 #22

what, you saying old people can't do stuff snooper2 Feb 2013 #58

IIRC I read you had to be in the reserves before you'd be considered for a regular cop job. Robb Feb 2013 #59

I have no idea and I'm too lazy to google it right now snooper2 Feb 2013 #60

He was the coach of a girls basketball team michreject Feb 2013 #16

Okay, thanks. bluedigger Feb 2013 #20

You are wrong. It was caught on school surveillance video. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #74

Indeed, it was caught on video. Robb Feb 2013 #80

He could have handed over his wallet Nevernose Feb 2013 #25

The kid could have not robbed him Recursion Feb 2013 #28

Last time I checked... primavera Feb 2013 #61

Nor is it; this wasn't an execution (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #62

I'm sure the dead kid's family will appreciate the distinction - n/t primavera Feb 2013 #64

What? Socal31 Feb 2013 #33

The question asked was Nevernose Feb 2013 #41

With no guarantee that those teens wouldn't have shot him anyway. nick of time Feb 2013 #45

And no guarantee that those teens would have shot him primavera Feb 2013 #63

The teens put a gun to his chest. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #75

But, in the end, they did not shoot him. If he'd handed over his wallet, they would have likely left Hoyt Feb 2013 #77

Yeah c,mon give us a break here Populist_Prole Feb 2013 #34

Giving up the wallet doesn't always guarantee that the victim gets off without tblue37 Feb 2013 #35

There was no guarantee the thugs wouldn't have killed him if he had cooperated slackmaster Feb 2013 #43

And now we'll never know, will we? primavera Feb 2013 #65

"Necessary" or not, according to the laws we all live under it was justifiable slackmaster Feb 2013 #66

You don't know that, slackmaster primavera Feb 2013 #69

Yes, it's a very big deal. I'm sure the coach understands that. slackmaster Feb 2013 #70

I guess I'm just reacting... primavera Feb 2013 #71

Everybody involved was black, so you put the racism charge away. N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #76

Hand over his wallet, then call the cops.... reACTIONary Feb 2013 #52

Well... umm... they seem to have been, no? (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #29

And so it starts again. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #9

What starts again? nt michreject Feb 2013 #11

What's that? (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #30

Recursion slackmaster Feb 2013 #44

What's that? (nt) Recursion Feb 2013 #46

That for which an understanding requires an understanding of... slackmaster Feb 2013 #47

So far, sounds like a good case of self defense. nick of time Feb 2013 #12

It seems like he was escorting one of the girls to a bus stop michreject Feb 2013 #14

Thanks for the info. nick of time Feb 2013 #18

The surviving teen will probably be charged with Murder formercia Feb 2013 #21

Rightly so. nick of time Feb 2013 #23

Justifiable Homicide. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #31

Felony Murder was abolished in Michigan in 1980 happyslug Feb 2013 #50

another link raidert05 Feb 2013 #17

and that ain't the only one... farminator3000 Feb 2013 #24

Don't rob people. You might get shot. Recursion Feb 2013 #26

Infuriatingly, VPC will still count this as a "child killed by gun violence" Recursion Feb 2013 #27

I hope someone from area updates us... ReRe Feb 2013 #32

One threatened him with a gun. This is from the article: tblue37 Feb 2013 #36

Thanks... ReRe Feb 2013 #48

Coach held for questioning in fatal shooting Robb Feb 2013 #37

He's not under arrest nick of time Feb 2013 #38

There's a lot of gun defense news ...just not on DU. n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #39

Message auto-removed zigzag75 Feb 2013 #40

The young hoodlums chose poorly slackmaster Feb 2013 #42

Report: No Guns Found (except the shooter's) Robb Feb 2013 #49

If he said one had a gun, and niether had anything that even resembles one....... Socal31 Feb 2013 #54

Warrant request submitted for possible charges against the coach Robb Feb 2013 #55

Police almost always want an arrest, it takes the pressure off of them. Socal31 Feb 2013 #57

Police say coach is victim GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #79

If only everyone had had their hands amputated and replaced with guns, valerief Feb 2013 #51

I suspect that some of the people Dan Feb 2013 #53

UPDATE: "Did 70-year-old coach use excessive force in MLK High School shootings?" Robb Feb 2013 #56

I don't know the specifics of Michigan law, but in most states there is no requirement for parity... slackmaster Feb 2013 #67

Nice backtrack from your unrestrained enthusiasm for this shooting in #42 above. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #68

The Wayne County prosecutor needs to study this from all angles ... JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2013 #72

"Reply #42 will be up held" - as if this is some kind of legal proceeding we're conducting here. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #73

2 young men threatening a 70 year old Blandocyte Feb 2013 #78

UPDATE: No mention of finding youth's gun in police report, only one warrant request Robb Feb 2013 #81