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John2

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27. You have a lot
Sun May 5, 2013, 07:51 PM
May 2013

of Americans who are very well educated and intelligent, that cannot be fooled by propaganda or rhetoric. A lot of people in this country don't buy into religious extremism either. The Turkish Prime minister is a bias participant in this War. His country has a stake in Syria with the Kurdish populations in Syria,Iraq and Iran. he wants to carve out an independant subserviant client state. That is his real reason for wanting to see Syria divided. The Kurds in Iraq are already more favorable to Turkey than they are to Iraq. Especially with oil resources. Turkey is the same country that invaded Cyprus. So whatever statements he makes publicly in his rants, intelligent people know what he is doing under the table. There is also a nuclear issue with Turkey on their soil. He is not interested in the human rights of people. His real interests are power and influence. That includes resources.

You say the end is near for Assad, or is some people getting desperate because things aren't turning out the way they schemed? I'm referring to the attack from Israel backfiring regarding public opinion in the region. The prime minister of Turkey, was not the only leader in the Middle East to make public statements today. There were statements from the Arab League including Iraq and Iran's military leaders. I'm not talking about the political leaders but the military leaders. I think some people will get what they ask for in this push to War.

This conflict is not about just Assad but something bigger. These sides are lining up and their positions are hardening for whatever causes they believe in dying for. War is not to be toyed with and it is not a joke. The same idiots in Washington that gave us Iraq and that mess in Afghanistan is at it again. Those fools can't help themselves. The U.N. is impedent because they can't even prevent this War. You have idiots that are drunk with power and their delusions of grandeur. It is more evidence of the fault in man. One of my favorite Documentary films is the fall of the Third Reich. I find documentaries in History very enlightening, because it exposes how fools repeat the same mistakes. Apparently they weren't as super as they thought.

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It'd good to be a NATO member..nt jakeXT May 2013 #1
Blah blah blah Arctic Dave May 2013 #2
A thread reporting complaints about Syria from Turkey, motivate you to criticize Erdogan because still_one May 2013 #3
Yes and Obama = Assad. Sand Wind May 2013 #4
Your views are so misguided and full of nonsense still_one May 2013 #5
Sorry I Forget we have to put sign of sarcasm here. Sand Wind May 2013 #7
I just didn't know, sorry still_one May 2013 #21
The POTUS is not killing babies and women deliberately. secondwind May 2013 #11
Ok I will edit and put the sarcasm sign Sand Wind May 2013 #14
OOPS! /nt Ash_F May 2013 #48
Pointing out hypocritical rhetoric. Arctic Dave May 2013 #15
He got the PKK to peacefully withdrawl after decades. joshcryer May 2013 #25
Actually, the Kurds--while not yet living optimally--are in better shape now than they have MADem May 2013 #53
If you cannot deny that one man is a war criminal, the best tactic is to say "Look over there! pampango May 2013 #18
It's whether the war criminal is pro or anti-US. joshcryer May 2013 #20
Syria apparently wants their 'terrorists' to have anti-aircraft and accurate, long-range missiles. pampango May 2013 #23
Yeah, no doubt about that at all. joshcryer May 2013 #26
A jury voted 3-3 to leave comparing Obama to Bashar al-Assad alone ButterflyBlood May 2013 #59
Assad should be on trial for crimes against humanity ASAP! Tx4obama May 2013 #6
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #8
I am NOT pro-war. Are you supporting Assad? Tx4obama May 2013 #10
Is Obama and bush going to sit next to him while on trial? Arctic Dave May 2013 #16
Of course articulating the reason we should go to war isn't being Pro-War, is it, ProSense... MNBrewer May 2013 #17
Are you supporting Al Qaeda? ...if you support the rebels then ...yep you are! L0oniX May 2013 #24
I suggest you reread what I wrote in Comment #6. That is all I said other than I am not pro-war. Tx4obama May 2013 #29
I asked you a question. Maybe you are seeing something else that isn't there. L0oniX May 2013 #32
Supporting Assad smknz May 2013 #45
I am NOT pro-war. secondwind May 2013 #12
That is up to Syria, and he is currently president of Syria. David__77 May 2013 #37
"If the Syrian people don't like it, then can vote against him" King_David May 2013 #56
Not at all. David__77 May 2013 #60
But all Sunnis in Syria are not terrorists. Sunnis are 80% of Turkey's population and Shiites (20%) pampango May 2013 #61
I agree with the sentiment "stay out." David__77 May 2013 #62
I totally agree with you, doesn't get much worse than this Rhiannon12866 May 2013 #49
Why do you like war so much? darkangel218 May 2013 #51
another player in the game of power politics of the middle east madrchsod May 2013 #9
We are one step away from NATO. When a member of the Arab League starts to complain and criticize, secondwind May 2013 #13
confusing MNBrewer May 2013 #19
They're not Arab. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #31
I realize that. My statement was a statement of fact. MNBrewer May 2013 #34
Got it, no problem. n/t Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #36
You have a lot John2 May 2013 #27
Amen smknz May 2013 #46
Yes but the world hope that the Land of the Free will not forget to help his neighbor Sand Wind May 2013 #47
Turkish PM: Hey ...pay attention to me. I'm important too. n/t L0oniX May 2013 #22
What a choice... jessie04 May 2013 #28
Today the syrian people Thank's who they can, Israël and Turkey. Sand Wind May 2013 #30
You know, thats true. The Syrian people benefit alot from Israel's action. jessie04 May 2013 #33
The world might also thank the Syrian army for its fight against al Qaeda. David__77 May 2013 #44
As an American, John2 May 2013 #50
don't think it will be long now before someone takes Assad out. Sunlei May 2013 #35
Could be. Lots of terrorist cells are working on their suicide bombings. David__77 May 2013 #38
yup, or whoever is doing the targeted missle strikes will take him out next time. Sunlei May 2013 #39
From your lips to God's ears Sand Wind May 2013 #40
I don't believe God or Allah has anything to do with what horrors humans will do to each other. Sunlei May 2013 #41
I'm sometimes balance between believe or not. Sand Wind May 2013 #42
you're right. If there is a God he/she would stand with the innocent people & animals Sunlei May 2013 #43
That was the kind of thinking that got us started in this war: Assad won't last, a coup by 2012, leveymg May 2013 #54
Holy SHIT! MADem May 2013 #52
So who's taking Assad's spot in Syria, then? Scootaloo May 2013 #55
"Warlord-state chaos of Afghanistan" gets my vote. bemildred May 2013 #57
Getting morality lessons from Turks eissa May 2013 #58
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