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15. More hair on fire news without research

Reply to thatsrightimirish (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2013, 02:25 PM

May 2013

No one seems to remember the massive Oakland Hills fire, when the non-native eucalyptus trees torched 4000 residences and killed 25 people. The city of Oakland, East Bay Regional Park District, East Bay Municipal Utility District, and the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection are also part of this move.

There's been nothing secret about this battle, which has been going on since 2005. The main argument against reducing this massive fire hazard is that the trees 'are pretty'. Well, whoop-de-fucking-do. This isn't some land grab, where they're going to construct parking lots and office buildings. They'll make it nice and aesthetically pleasing.

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FEMA Plans Clear-Cutting 85,000 Berkeley and Oakland Trees [View all] thatsrightimirish May 2013 OP

This is insane. If fire is their worry, the 2' of woodchips will be an even worse threat. SunSeeker May 2013 #1

And note tht they don't mention doing this during the early part of the summer, when fledgling truedelphi May 2013 #8

I bet Cal wishes they had done this before Zachary Running Wolf delayed the SAHPC project OmahaBlueDog May 2013 #2

WTF. I am ignorant of any details but this sounds like one of the worst ideas yet. byeya May 2013 #3

It appears from the link that this is some kind of combination of enough May 2013 #4

I hae particpated in citizen protests against some of the truedelphi May 2013 #7

They can find a tire... snooper2 May 2013 #13

Time for some 60's style sit-ins and student riots upaloopa May 2013 #5

Sounds like it's UC Berkeley's idea. bluedigger May 2013 #6

W. T. F. City Lights May 2013 #9

sad but read this warrior1 May 2013 #10

Wow! I only saw news of this, not how bad it was. But clear-cutting, woodchips and herbicide... freshwest May 2013 #16

FEMA is funding it. former9thward May 2013 #45

The Eucalyptus trees are the big problem OmahaBlueDog May 2013 #50

sounds like a corpse of engineers plan. stupid. pansypoo53219 May 2013 #11

Fire prevention huh? Two feet of wood chips. Yeah. That should do the trick. silvershadow May 2013 #12

It's called mulch NickB79 May 2013 #24

Yeah, mea culpa. I was just trying to be funny. (Kind of a habit). I should have tagged sarcasm. silvershadow May 2013 #38

I read a study that said before the redwoods were clear cut, the area was very different... rwsanders May 2013 #14

More hair on fire news without research railsback May 2013 #15

Is this a clear cut in a populated area? RobertEarl May 2013 #17

Fire hazard is serious business in this area. maxsolomon May 2013 #19

Refer to maxsolomon's post. railsback May 2013 #22

So, you don't know anything? RobertEarl May 2013 #23

Oh, so your hair is on fire. railsback May 2013 #25

No RobertEarl May 2013 #26

You need to kill the weeds first railsback May 2013 #30

"I am in favor of planetary restoration." Nuclear Unicorn May 2013 #58

Jurassic Park would be awesome. RobertEarl May 2013 #59

If you want to learn the answer to your question, then yes, you will read the EIS. maxsolomon May 2013 #31

another engineering problem i see. grahampuba May 2013 #18

I'll trust engineers, botanists and biologists railsback May 2013 #21

I remember the hills fire XemaSab May 2013 #34

Exactly railsback May 2013 #37

Ah, that I did not know Yo_Mama May 2013 #41

I watched that fire burn Mz Pip May 2013 #44

They're removing non-native, invasive eucalyptus trees NickB79 May 2013 #20

I don't know anything about this particular situation, but I do know SheilaT May 2013 #27

Anybody that objects to this might want to watch this video from October 1991 tularetom May 2013 #28

Thank you for posting that! OmahaBlueDog May 2013 #49

Go Bears!! tularetom May 2013 #52

Go Bears! OmahaBlueDog May 2013 #53

K&R DeSwiss May 2013 #29

Those black and whites are deceptive Xithras May 2013 #35

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! tabasco May 2013 #60

those last two photos were taken by me paulkienitz Aug 2013 #61

Sorry Paul. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #62

thanx paulkienitz Aug 2013 #63

I am all for it -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #32

I've started spending Friday or Saturday mornings on San Bruno Mountain- How beautiful it is there! NBachers May 2013 #51

It is a real treasure -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #56

A few weeks ago we were there when it was real foggy- we saw rabbits all over NBachers May 2013 #57

This is a GOOD thing. Xithras May 2013 #33

wtf? so much for those bastions of liberal thinking and FU, FEMA, terrible idea:-( wordpix May 2013 #36

The sooner they cut these trees down the better. hunter May 2013 #39

So FEMA is becoming the disaster-creating agency? Yo_Mama May 2013 #40

As a native & still resdent of that area I say "THANK GOD, CAN YOU START TOMORROW?" mulsh May 2013 #42

We certainly have some wildly differing viewpoints in this thread. Read Carefully! truthisfreedom May 2013 #43

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #46

Eucalyptus trees are essentially giant matches growing out of the ground Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #47

That was THE takeaway from the East Bay fires OmahaBlueDog May 2013 #48

mudslides, erosion, canyons welcome to idiocy. RILib May 2013 #54

Psst--I've got a carbon offset deal for ya, Berkeley.... sofa king May 2013 #55