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128. We live in a Machivellian world.

Reply to red dog 1 (Reply #127)

Sat May 18, 2013, 08:54 AM

May 2013

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Rep Cohen D-TN confronts AG Holder on Don Siegelman's case [View all] laserhaas May 2013 OP

Recommend! morningfog May 2013 #1

THX! laserhaas May 2013 #2

this is at least as newsworthy as anything else at that hearing Enrique May 2013 #3

Thanks - I learn this stuff soon enough laserhaas May 2013 #9

Perhaps if he had spent less time ranting about weed he could have gotten more answers from the AG Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #86

You can only embed YouTube vids RainDog May 2013 #4

Your welcome. Am I able (inept as I am) - to repost on Youtube laserhaas May 2013 #11

yeah, if you have a youtube acct. n/t RainDog May 2013 #48

Obama should pardon Siegelman. As Holder noted, the President's power to pardon is absolute. SunSeeker May 2013 #5

He does want Holder suggests - unless we force the issue. laserhaas May 2013 #15

Perhaps he believes that Siegelman is guilty and deserves to be punished Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #87

Powerful stuff! jonthebru May 2013 #6

Concur - times a wasting - we need laserhaas May 2013 #16

Thank you for posting this... lucca18 May 2013 #7

Thank you for taking the time to read. laserhaas May 2013 #17

Thanks for the thread. It's always appropriate to highlight such a terrible miscarriage of justice. byeya May 2013 #8

If we can't get this one addressed and corrected laserhaas May 2013 #18

K&R for Don Siegelman. nt OnyxCollie May 2013 #10

And I know he deeply appreciates that OnyxCollie laserhaas May 2013 #19

SIGNED. navarth May 2013 #12

Do you have any links to Hartmann's show? laserhaas May 2013 #22

Sure navarth May 2013 #88

THX laserhaas May 2013 #96

Hmmm... Mr. Evil May 2013 #81

It is as if we don't exist anymore. Peons/masses don't matter laserhaas May 2013 #93

Is it my imagination or does a certain very vocal group here in DU go silent when the subject of Gov rhett o rick May 2013 #13

Abject silence serves no good purpose. laserhaas May 2013 #20

Which certain vocal group? OrwellwasRight May 2013 #23

Obama isn't perfect and gets blamed for hiring imperfect people. laserhaas May 2013 #27

You're way off. They never mention communist. TeaParty Liberal is their current attempt at insult. rhett o rick May 2013 #49

Generally, IMO, the ones who are silent on this and other issues of injustice AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #68

They KNOW the "FIX" is "IN" and consider it a waste of time. laserhaas May 2013 #69

At the very top of Holder's "To Do" list after being appointed Attorney General..... bvar22 May 2013 #14

You won't believe this - but Ted Stevens death is connected down yonder - to the crooked judge laserhaas May 2013 #21

The Judge in the Stevens case ruled that prosecutors had concealed exculpatory evidence Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #85

No - because the cases are rigged. In a legit world, judge Fuller would be recused laserhaas May 2013 #95

Siegelman has had plenty of time to appeal on the basis of Fuller's impartiality Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #139

Your argument is not dispositive sir. laserhaas May 2013 #143

Wow. And from Tennessee too? Bump. nt silvershadow May 2013 #24

Yes - ain't it fantastic. Someone should start a thread/petition laserhaas May 2013 #28

Cohen is my Congressman. summerschild May 2013 #35

Rove clonies - let's give them all their own Romney planet laserhaas May 2013 #37

Yep. Mine too. And he is outstanding. n/t reflection May 2013 #90

A most egregious injustice The Blue Flower May 2013 #25

Apropos is the "Canary" reference (don't cha know)! laserhaas May 2013 #29

Wow, I had no idea Siegelman was still in jail. NaturalHigh May 2013 #26

Well - you know now - Please help spread the word laserhaas May 2013 #30

Good for Cohen for raising this question. mountain grammy May 2013 #31

Appreciate MuCH laserhaas May 2013 #34

K&R MotherPetrie May 2013 #32

THX laserhaas May 2013 #33

Let's hope something gets done about this. It has gone on far too long and an asjr May 2013 #36

Concur - Just think How Great a Spokesman Siegelman will be laserhaas May 2013 #38

Yes, and just thinki what an asset he would have been changling AL into a Democratic state.l I lived asjr May 2013 #39

Used to live in Dothan and Montgomery laserhaas May 2013 #54

Oh MY I just looked at my last message and one would think I can't spell. All these flat keys asjr May 2013 #66

No biggie.... laserhaas May 2013 #67

Of the many positive things Siegleman could do if released is to shine a light on the byeya May 2013 #40

We are going to welcome him home with open and arms and much limelight laserhaas May 2013 #55

Thanks for posting this; and thanks to Thom Hartmann too. red dog 1 May 2013 #41

Yea - on the issue of Petition, I'm going to talk to Dana laserhaas May 2013 #56

It may take a million signatures to get POTUS to pardon Gov. Siegelman red dog 1 May 2013 #77

We are going to switch gears and up the ante in this effort laserhaas May 2013 #78

Don Siegelman Caeser67 May 2013 #42

We ARE in a civil war (and the U.S. citizenry is losing on all fronts) laserhaas May 2013 #57

Holder goes after... AnneD May 2013 #43

You're preaching to the choir on that one AnneD - I've been -- laserhaas May 2013 #58

Holder claims Siegelman not eligible to have his sentence commuted. red dog 1 May 2013 #44

Well, couldn't they make a deal for him to drop the appeal KamaAina May 2013 #46

One would think. Holder is a politician. He knows how to use the rhetoric. rhett o rick May 2013 #51

If they gave him a pardon - the appeal would be moot laserhaas May 2013 #63

If I were him - I wouldn't take a deal laserhaas May 2013 #61

The "issues" that Holder was referencing - are some laserhaas May 2013 #59

Deal with whom? Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #142

JFK had absolute power too. laserhaas May 2013 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #74

"Update" SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #75

You saw what happened to Senator Ted Stevens laserhaas May 2013 #76

I don't follow your line of thinking. How is this related? SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #82

Thinking on this further, I'm so weary of being on defense. SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #83

First of all - it's corruption that put Governor Siegelman in the precarious position. laserhaas May 2013 #94

Why hasn't someone made a movie about this? Even if half is conjecture, SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #99

I'm in SoCal now - having meetings about my film/book - with prospecitive agents/agencies laserhaas May 2013 #104

You clearly haven't heard about the blackout that happened when 60 mins tried okaawhatever May 2013 #119

Wow - thanks okaawhatever - I'd totally forgotten about this laserhaas May 2013 #123

44 of the 55 states? KamaAina May 2013 #45

Picky, Piky, Pik'ee laserhaas May 2013 #60

Cohen is an idiot who hates FACTS MannyGoldstein May 2013 #47

PUHHHLLLEAASSSEEE - you don't make deals with the Debol and give them a soul laserhaas May 2013 #62

yeppers . . . annabanana May 2013 #70

Must be from planet laserhaas May 2013 #73

I've said that Steve Cohen is the REAL DEAL...... DeSwiss May 2013 #50

And you've been right. KamaAina May 2013 #52

I've been watching his career..... DeSwiss May 2013 #53

He just blew me away on Democracy Now dreamnightwind May 2013 #84

Hey - no racial bias - means No Racial Bias... laserhaas May 2013 #65

THX - it is so cool that we are getting more like Liz Warren laserhaas May 2013 #64

I heaven05 May 2013 #71

Good follow, Concur - the sooner the better. Correct -a - moon'doe is nuttin Butt corruption laserhaas May 2013 #72

Siegelman made NO profit off of that either. tblue May 2013 #79

Richard Nixon made NO profit from the cover-up of the Watergate burglary Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #89

I object to this proffering of facts not in evidence. laserhaas May 2013 #97

Whoa. Comparing a railroaded Dem governor to Nixon. Doctor_J May 2013 #103

It would appear that Freddie's viewpoint is skewed from being Progressive laserhaas May 2013 #115

The Nixon case is a good case study of what happens to a President who pardons a Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #141

So, this is a website where only unquestioningly bashing a Democratic AG is welcome? Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #140

I'm going to send Rep. Cohen an e-mail of appreciation for calling attention to this injustice. pacalo May 2013 #80

I was thinking the same thing pacalo laserhaas May 2013 #92

His website only accepts Tennessee constituents' e-mails. pacalo May 2013 #100

I KNOW - it sucks the whammy - However, it is a "proper" protocol. laserhaas May 2013 #105

Thank you so much! I just sent the fax... pacalo May 2013 #111

KUDOs to you (btw - did you mention DU - ALWAYS mention DU)? laserhaas May 2013 #112

Dang... pacalo May 2013 #113

Always promote the brand. laserhaas May 2013 #117

He should have been pardoned immediately! santamargarita May 2013 #91

It is a good thing that my righteous indignation, coupled with being a victim; laserhaas May 2013 #98

No anxiety here, it's called disdain. santamargarita May 2013 #101

I have the same disdain - (probably more so) - However laserhaas May 2013 #106

I vent and move on...not healthy... santamargarita May 2013 #114

Yes, they did - on my birthday. It was a set-up. They offered me a biz deal in the millions laserhaas May 2013 #116

So you still don't have your daughter back? santamargarita May 2013 #130

My daughter was back in a few days. The man who abducted laserhaas May 2013 #133

That's a relief! I'd love to see that criminal santamargarita May 2013 #135

Fortunately - (G-d willing) - the "stench" is big enough to muster attention. laserhaas May 2013 #138

What will really blow your mind is the fact that laserhaas May 2013 #121

Absolutely amazing! santamargarita May 2013 #129

Concur - When corruption is the rule, rather than the exception laserhaas May 2013 #132

If he waits and lets the appeals court overturn his sentence he will have recourse. nt okaawhatever May 2013 #120

Frug that - we want Governor Siegelman free - NOW... laserhaas May 2013 #124

the pressure needs to be on the appellate court to overturn the verdict. They could easily do it okaawhatever May 2013 #125

In a legit world - you would be correct - but we live in a Citizen's United World of Courts laserhaas May 2013 #126

I hadn't thought of that. That's exactly what I'd want. santamargarita May 2013 #131

Yes - we have man patriots who are abused (quashed) by despots. laserhaas May 2013 #136

My first hint that Obama was going to be a major disappointment Doctor_J May 2013 #102

Fret not Doctor_J (btw - I actually hoop'd against him) - Know Ye This laserhaas May 2013 #107

I think there is one major step he could take Doctor_J May 2013 #108

I would be glad to meet with you (please remind me - as I'm bad with dates/times - in future) laserhaas May 2013 #109

Please bare in mind. Barack Obama swore an oath to the American People - not the Democratic party. laserhaas May 2013 #110

So, if a significant group of his constituents want slavery back ... ? FiveGoodMen May 2013 #134

Not the same issue (and I'd be the first one on the front line against him if such were a program). laserhaas May 2013 #137

SIGNED and may the injustice end with KKKarl going to jail along with the rest of this evil bunch wordpix May 2013 #118

Thx - concur - it would be great to have Rove'r and Romney laserhaas May 2013 #122

Back in '08, "60 Minutes" did a segment on Don Siegelman, red dog 1 May 2013 #127

We live in a Machivellian world. laserhaas May 2013 #128