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68. I'm not sure that the Rockefeller sentencing

Mon May 20, 2013, 07:20 AM

May 2013

included a habitual offender clause, but I don't think it did.

By "three strikes," I'm referring to the very specific sentencing enhancements generally dated to the Washington State and (more famously) California statutes of the early 90's. They differ from previous similar enhancement "options" by mandating the enhancement for any person convicted of three felonies (on three separate occasions).

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Hofstra Student in Home Invasion Was Killed by Police Gunshot: Officials [View all] Pilotguy May 2013 OP

7 out of 8 shots hit the suspect, not bad! Sorry 'bout the 8th shot. DRoseDARs May 2013 #1

seven out of eight ain't bad. . .sorry for your loss, family. don't expect the PBA or NCP Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #3

I'll be surprised if they don't send a bill for the bullets to the girls family. socialsecurityisAAA May 2013 #21

i smell a lawsuit Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #2

I think it would be fun if both families filed a joint lawsuit for her murder. DRoseDARs May 2013 #6

I highly doubt the suspect will win a lawsuit Travis_0004 May 2013 #26

Seeing as the suspect is dead... DRoseDARs May 2013 #30

I meant to say the suspects family is unlikely to win a lawsuit. Travis_0004 May 2013 #31

I agree. LisaL May 2013 #44

Limit Duckhunter935 May 2013 #4

Train cops properly and don't hire cowboys. n/t MrModerate May 2013 #5

They Turn Into Cowboys otohara May 2013 #50

Now that's sad . . . MrModerate May 2013 #88

non-sequitur is non-sequitur, I award you no points sir. nt DRoseDARs May 2013 #8

Once again Cirque du So-What May 2013 #10

More blood on gun culturists' hands. nt onehandle May 2013 #7

How do you stop a bad guy with a gun? Find a good guy with a gun. But if you're the dead victim Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #12

The NRA invented stupid cops? ok ... nt JustABozoOnThisBus May 2013 #13

Again. . .the way your stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a gun. NRA words Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #14

This is a Tragedy RobinA May 2013 #9

WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY??? NASSAU COUNTY??? WHY??? Historic NY May 2013 #11

Did anyone read the article B4 condemning the cop? dballance May 2013 #15

PLEASE presscac May 2013 #16

db, don't you think RILib May 2013 #57

I'm Not Really Qualified to Know Whether 8 Shots Were Excessive. Neither are most people posting. dballance May 2013 #60

they went into the house without ascertaining if there were hostages RILib May 2013 #65

The perp should not have been walking the streets. FarCenter May 2013 #17

There's never been a three strikes law in NY alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #36

It's FEDERAL law. nt DCKit May 2013 #47

These are all state offenses alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #51

OMG, I'm so ashamed that I didn't study up on NY state law before replying. DCKit May 2013 #54

It's not NY State law that was giving you a problem alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #55

Except for the Rockefeller Drug Laws of 1973 Starboard Tack May 2013 #66

I'm not sure that the Rockefeller sentencing alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #68

My mistake. You are correct. Starboard Tack May 2013 #69

sad Liberal_in_LA May 2013 #18

So the cop having a gun pointed at him was just supposed to get shot? Recursion May 2013 #19

Cops come first, got it. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #20

Self defense is a universal right Recursion May 2013 #22

It takes 8 shots to defend yourself? davidn3600 May 2013 #23

Cops are trained to empty their magazine Recursion May 2013 #24

"Sorry we killed the girl we were trying to protect. Maybe if her head didn't get in the way of the Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author atreides1 May 2013 #38

Cops are trained to presscac May 2013 #45

Exactly. premium May 2013 #48

Facts don't get in the way 'round these parts Supply Side Jesus May 2013 #81

Not one of them had to hear a child talk about how they sexually assaulted Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #87

LOL, I cannot tell if you are seriously defending this cop or joking. n-t Logical May 2013 #63

Even if that right means killing an innocent? ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #53

Easy to say without a gun pointed at you (nt) Recursion May 2013 #58

Yep. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #61

THE COP WAS NOT FOLLOWING PROTOCOL FOR A HOSTAGE SITUATION! Th1onein May 2013 #79

reinterpret the 2nd...however, Nassau Country needs their PD to be trained by NYPD. graham4anything May 2013 #27

NYPD doesn't really have a great record , this is a tough one , the guy should never have been JI7 May 2013 #28

The NYPD wouldn't have taken the shot as it happened.They are trained different than other depts. graham4anything May 2013 #29

Hmmm... markpkessinger May 2013 #34

Yes, you are as 90% of those happened in Guiliani's universe with Bratton as police chief then. graham4anything May 2013 #35

Not by my count . . . markpkessinger May 2013 #37

Officer was NYPD trained presscac May 2013 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything May 2013 #73

Blame the victim...wonderful Blue_Tires May 2013 #75

Banning sething christx30 May 2013 #32

MOM always told me, if at first you don't succeed, try, try again graham4anything May 2013 #33

NYPD trained? premium May 2013 #49

If you're going to make an argument, you should use a picture from the correct coast. jeff47 May 2013 #64

Yep, you're right, premium May 2013 #67

Exactly! Just like the way they banned drugs and now even people willing to break the law hughee99 May 2013 #72

oh man. heaven05 May 2013 #39

Tragic, but should we blame the cop? FlynnArcher72 May 2013 #40

Nobody can know what the criminal was going to do if the woman returned with the money. LisaL May 2013 #43

I agree FlynnArcher72 May 2013 #62

He pulled the trigger, he should take responsibility for his action... Blue_Tires May 2013 #77

8 shots is a lot for one policeman to fire to take down a single person. Poll_Blind May 2013 #41

Your cops are poorly trained then Supply Side Jesus May 2013 #82

Trigger happy assholes. tabasco May 2013 #42

Mustve thought he was Nick Nolte in Beverly Hills Cop rickyhall May 2013 #52

You mean 48 Hours? 24601 May 2013 #86

This was a tragic incident for the shooting victim. The armed robber caused this. The cop couldn't AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #56

I wonder where the felon got the gun? marshall May 2013 #59

Who says the felon christx30 May 2013 #70

I'm willing to bet that a gun store.. Bay Boy May 2013 #84

Two of the comments I thought made really good sense. raccoon May 2013 #71

The second comment is a joke Blue_Tires May 2013 #76

no, the officer does NOT. Do you know what happened to the other police that were there? graham4anything May 2013 #78

Does that excuse the girl getting killed? Blue_Tires May 2013 #85

I suspected as much. Beacool May 2013 #74

I hope this doesn't happen as much as it could. olddots May 2013 #80

the one and only first cop there went into the house alone! He did not follow policy at all. Sunlei May 2013 #83