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Fri May 24, 2013, 08:28 AM

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New evidence in George Zimmerman case : Trayvon texted about being a fighter [View all] hack89 May 2013 OP

None of that is remotely relevant to the night he was killed. morningfog May 2013 #1

Zimmerman's defense is that Martin attacked him hack89 May 2013 #3

Why did he pursue him in the first place? Blue_Tires May 2013 #16

Because he is a racist jerk? nt hack89 May 2013 #20

Answer: Because Zimmer wanted a confrontation? Katashi_itto May 2013 #31

Maybe Zim had heard of this lid BlueStreak May 2013 #83

he was the aggressor the moment he got out of the car...because: he is not a cop noiretextatique Jun 2013 #111

Supposedly it was because the neighborhood had a lot of burglaries FrodosPet Jun 2013 #116

Evidence that Martin had been in fights in his past is not relevant to morningfog May 2013 #32

Not saying it is hack89 May 2013 #35

evidence that Martin sought out to be in fights ... quadrature May 2013 #59

Oh really? How so? morningfog May 2013 #60

'organized fights' . first paragraph of text. .nt quadrature May 2013 #61

What does that have to do with the night he was killed? Was it an organized fight? morningfog May 2013 #64

It isn't relevant, but it will probably get introduced. Kennah May 2013 #70

My nephew was into cage fighting bitchkitty May 2013 #98

not a thug ... quadrature May 2013 #99

There is no evidence that Zimmerman started the fight cheyanne May 2013 #85

getting out the car, after being instucted not to do so, with a gun, is aggression, imho noiretextatique Jun 2013 #112

"Anyway, I was chasing the colored boy with hoodie down the street..." Buzz Clik May 2013 #8

You made me laugh, I am sick. Good summary though. uppityperson May 2013 #103

The prosecution might not wish Trayvon to be viewed as a fighter Jake Izzy May 2013 #26

But the defense opened the gates. atreides1 May 2013 #27

Zimmerman was charged with "resisting an officer without violence" Jake Izzy May 2013 #30

Prosecution can't use Zimmerman's past, Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #58

Jury is already selected so jury pool is not a consideration unless there is a retrial. yellowcanine Jun 2013 #118

It is highly relevant. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #113

After watching Star Trek SCVDem May 2013 #2

Depends. Are you a scary black man in a hooded sweatshirt? If so, I must kill you now. Buzz Clik May 2013 #9

even if any of this were true, on that night, an armed, very large man, stalked (despite being niyad May 2013 #4

True - but guilty people are found not guilty all the time hack89 May 2013 #5

I know--and the thought that this murderer might get off makes me ill. niyad May 2013 #6

We get it... Blue_Tires May 2013 #18

I think he is guilty and should go to jail. hack89 May 2013 #22

That's not true Hyper_Eye May 2013 #10

Self inflicted libodem May 2013 #11

There is no evidence of that. Hyper_Eye May 2013 #21

Seconded. knixphan May 2013 #36

Those wounds are totally superficial Downtown Hound May 2013 #14

I agree. Hyper_Eye May 2013 #19

I believe Zimmerman to be guilty, Jenoch May 2013 #33

Zimmerman's family doctor said a nose fracture was likely Jake Izzy May 2013 #34

Likely or happened? Downtown Hound May 2013 #42

How soon after the rupture did you see these noses? Jake Izzy May 2013 #44

If his nose was still bleeding then it was pretty shortly afterwords Downtown Hound May 2013 #86

mine didn't bleed at all TorchTheWitch May 2013 #93

Do you have John2 May 2013 #41

The coroner's report Hyper_Eye May 2013 #43

the video of him in the police station shows a person whose shirt is clean, who does NOT have blood niyad May 2013 #50

It was grainy and low-res Hyper_Eye May 2013 #53

Zimmerman was 5'9, 170 lbs. Jake Izzy May 2013 #48

Trayvon was 5'11" and 158 XemaSab May 2013 #66

yes, poor, defenseless Zimmerman cvoogt May 2013 #7

two fist bubba4249 May 2013 #12

Two Fist is good..... clarice May 2013 #28

How is this Jamaal510 May 2013 #13

It shows how Zimmerman will smear Martin's character hack89 May 2013 #23

He could be talking about a video game for all anyone knows Blue_Tires May 2013 #15

Irrelevant erpowers May 2013 #17

It shows how Zimmerman will smear Martin's character hack89 May 2013 #24

But would his being a fighter undermine the claim that Zimmerman dominated the fight against him? Jake Izzy May 2013 #29

Yup naaman fletcher May 2013 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl May 2013 #25

yes me 2 lunasun May 2013 #55

Martin may have used his fists to fight...Zimmerman definitely used his gun to murder. SoapBox May 2013 #37

You are correct. nt hack89 May 2013 #38

That's a circular argument Jake Izzy May 2013 #46

doesn't that hideous beat Thug Zimmerman have a fucking police record of violence against others ? JI7 May 2013 #39

Do you have google? Jake Izzy May 2013 #45

Ugly side of justice - Guy stalks his victim then says it was self-defense and his lawyers 2Design May 2013 #47

Did the 9-11 operator really tell Zimmerman to stay in his car? Jake Izzy May 2013 #56

Read the 911 transcript Art_from_Ark May 2013 #107

this explains a lot klyon May 2013 #49

zimmerman wasn't neighborhood watch--he was an armed vigilante. neighborhood watch does niyad May 2013 #51

Just like the rape victim in her short skirt Generic Other May 2013 #52

Zimmy is guilty of first degree murder. He was told to back off and he didn't.To the max after guilt graham4anything May 2013 #54

Considering the state of Florida charged him with 2nd degree murder hack89 May 2013 #57

The federal government should look into this as a civil rights violation graham4anything May 2013 #68

It still would not be first degree murder. nt hack89 May 2013 #73

If Zimmerman, the NRA poster person was packing a tennis ball, Mr. Martin would still be alive graham4anything May 2013 #75

No shit. nt hack89 May 2013 #78

Zim should have kept his ass in the car. rrneck May 2013 #62

Very true. nt hack89 May 2013 #63

Projecting much, George? alp227 May 2013 #65

Is this the new NRA spin? baldguy May 2013 #67

Cool! +4.3million!!! Well worth my time to go and have a look see. graham4anything May 2013 #69

Ouch! Kingofalldems May 2013 #72

Only if the NRA thinks he is guilty. hack89 May 2013 #74

. NoGOPZone May 2013 #91

Nice to know. Explains why this JimDandy May 2013 #104

Mr. Martin took part in organized fights. No evidence for 'unorganized' fights. agentS May 2013 #71

Zimmerman's guilt begins when he got out of the vehicle and started stalking... Frustratedlady May 2013 #76

I know. hack89 May 2013 #77

So let me get this straight WeekendWarrior May 2013 #79

It is an attempt to smear Martin's character and paint him as a violent person hack89 May 2013 #80

I'm convinced that WeekendWarrior May 2013 #81

I think Zimmerman committed murder. hack89 May 2013 #82

As does any sane person. nt WeekendWarrior May 2013 #94

Ditto. n/t RebelOne Jun 2013 #121

There was an eyewitness. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #115

You absolutely know that the defense will... Bay Boy May 2013 #84

How the fuck is this even relevant? Arkana May 2013 #87

It is insight into the defense strategy hack89 May 2013 #88

scarey & weird a neighborhood watch would only, stare, follow, stalk, chase and never say a word. Sunlei May 2013 #89

a HS kid texts like a HS kid. adult wannabcop Zim hung around w/ Sanford police kids who did 'fight Sunlei May 2013 #90

didn't one of the witnesses say something about "on top of him mma style?" ileus May 2013 #92

Irrelevant. MrSlayer May 2013 #95

Nothing is irrelevent if a jury sees it. hack89 May 2013 #96

Agreed. MrSlayer May 2013 #97

Martin's hoody was gray with red lining. LanternWaste May 2013 #108

If his lawyers raise the issue and try to get it introduced as evidence hack89 May 2013 #109

So, by this "logic" (and I use the word loosely), everytime Glorious George said "I'm gonna kill MADem May 2013 #100

Why would they allow this to be opened to the public still_one May 2013 #101

poisoning the jury pool Bradical79 May 2013 #102

Has NOTHING to do with why Trayvon was killed Politicalboi May 2013 #105

And that is what the trial will determine marshall May 2013 #106

The one question the Zimmerman defense team cannot logically answer: Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #110

Muhammed Ali was great in organized fights too. Jamastiene Jun 2013 #114

So Trayvon deserved to die? tblue Jun 2013 #117

No. Zimmerman is guilty of 2nd degree murder. hack89 Jun 2013 #120

The ONLY thing that matters is did Trayvon Martin have the reasonable fear in MillennialDem Jun 2013 #119