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happyslug

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32. SA-2? The missle that shot down Gary Powers in 1960?
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:19 AM
Jul 2013

NATO called in the SA-2, the Actual name was S-75 Dvina:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=334

Sorry, it is of the same age and technology as American Nike Missles (Nike Hercules was introduced in 1959 and withdrawn in 1988, SA-2 is similar to the Older Nike-Ajax, which was introduced in 1954 and replaced by the Nike Hercules starting in 1959).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-14_Nike-Hercules


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-3_Nike_Ajax#After_Ajax

The SA-2 was considered a very good high attitude anti aircraft missile. It forced the Israelis in the 1973 Yom Kipper war to fly low, thus opening them up to short range AA fire from anything from Ak-47s up to 23mm AA cannon. Above in the Wikipedia site it states the US "solved" the problem of the SA-2 during the Attacks on Hanoi in 1972. It does not say how (US tactics on Soviet Missiles is similar to what it did in Desert Storm, hit the radars sites early, in Desert storms this was done by Apache Helicopters, in Vietnam the US apparently bombed the SA-2 sites with fighter bombers coming in low below the SA-2's radar destroying them before the B-52s came within range, hitting both the launch sites and any alternative launch sites, and kept them being bombed till the B-52s had drop their load and gone home, an expensive but effective tactic).

The SA-2 is a decent missile in today's service, no longer first string as it was when it shot down Gary Power in 1960, but an adequate defensive weapon.

As to the MIG-21, another relic of the 1950s that in well trained capable hands can still be a threat, but again not first string.




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Kick WheelWalker Jul 2013 #1
Here are those green tubular objects: NYC_SKP Jul 2013 #2
Looks conclusively tubular to me... WheelWalker Jul 2013 #4
...strangely evil Tubular Sounds coming from ship's hold Berlum Jul 2013 #7
Captain tried to kill himself. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #3
Probably thought that was a better choice then the rest of his life in a labor camp Lurks Often Jul 2013 #10
More likely his family. Desertion/turning infgrmant would be such an attractive geek tragedy Jul 2013 #12
"We've gotta stand with our North Korean allies." trusty elf Jul 2013 #5
''Green tubular object?'' DeSwiss Jul 2013 #6
President calls it "sophisticated missile equipment" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #8
Russia - North Korea Connection DallasNE Jul 2013 #9
Or, indeed, across their common land border muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #11
Perhaps it's because people are watching that border closely. hughee99 Jul 2013 #14
Yes, the easy way to send something from Russia to North Korea muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #15
Do you know where the "tubes" originally came from? hughee99 Jul 2013 #16
How would Panama, or the USA, stop a shipment from Russia to North Korea at the border? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #17
I didn't say anyone could stop the shipment. hughee99 Jul 2013 #18
No, you did say that muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #21
I didn't suggest that anyone could stop a shipment from Russia to NK over land. hughee99 Jul 2013 #25
Stated destination was Cuba, according to BBC; ship was RETURNING with "cargo". eppur_se_muova Jul 2013 #22
These may have been picked up in Cuba; found on return leg of journey eppur_se_muova Jul 2013 #24
A possibility. I wasn't aware of the timeline after my original post. hughee99 Jul 2013 #26
Thanks DallasNE Jul 2013 #27
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #13
This is odd. Where did this cargo come from? Where was it going? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #19
Last port of call seems to have been Cuba dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #20
Cuba says they were being sent to NK for repairs / upgrades. joshcryer Jul 2013 #30
more info from BBC: Origin, Russian far East, destination Cuba eppur_se_muova Jul 2013 #23
How would a North Korean ship running between Russia and Cuba not expect geek tragedy Jul 2013 #28
Arrogance or desparation. joshcryer Jul 2013 #31
Janes says appears to be parts for a SA-2 missile system.. EX500rider Jul 2013 #29
SA-2? The missle that shot down Gary Powers in 1960? happyslug Jul 2013 #32
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