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dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
114. I don't want to eliminate the Catholic Church
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:23 PM
Jul 2013

I want to eliminate the BIGOTRY in the Catholic Church.


Your yammering is only insulting and has no place on a progressive forum.

Pope: Who am I to judge gay people? [View all] dipsydoodle Jul 2013 OP
Who is this guy and what did he do with the Bishop of Rome? n/t Scootaloo Jul 2013 #1
check under the settee. xchrom Jul 2013 #2
+1 Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #53
Really? You think that is a positive statement? dbackjon Jul 2013 #55
Compared to the blanket condemnation of his predecessors? Scootaloo Jul 2013 #82
So that makes it a cause for celebration? dbackjon Jul 2013 #112
In reality it is the difference between Fearless Aug 2013 #134
I think that the pope's statement is actually a pretty big deal. yardwork Aug 2013 #158
It's a huge step in the right direction. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #91
please explain reorg Jul 2013 #110
If it is still demeaning, how is it a big shift? dbackjon Jul 2013 #113
The previous Popes have been bigger jerks about the subject. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #119
not true reorg Jul 2013 #123
"why the obsession to defend the pope" ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #124
Yeah, sure.... theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #125
I don't think it is a change Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #144
Baby steps, friend Thor_MN Jul 2013 #132
You also don't call a puppy shitting on the floor Holy Father, Vicar of Christ. Nor do folks run Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #136
Why would anyone call a puppy anything other than it's name? Thor_MN Aug 2013 #143
Say what??? theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #145
If you had bothered to read this subthread Thor_MN Aug 2013 #147
Oh, I've read the entire thread multiple times theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #148
You are free to your opinion and to be just as miserable as you desire Thor_MN Aug 2013 #153
Not the first time we've all heard that kind of response theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #154
Who am I to stand in the way of your absolute misery? Thor_MN Aug 2013 #155
Yes indeed theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #157
I'm the person you replied to. Thor_MN Aug 2013 #159
Did you catch the last paragraph of the article? melm00se Jul 2013 #3
Jackie Mason? Orrex Jul 2013 #4
I would take Jackie Mason over the other kind. yurbud Jul 2013 #63
Yup, one of the Founding Fathers! Muahaha! freshwest Jul 2013 #75
Someone call Robert Langdon. Arkana Jul 2013 #11
Having a Pope elide the gay lobby with financial elites cprise Jul 2013 #28
For a moment I thought it read "Mormon lobbies" caseymoz Jul 2013 #35
So horrific. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #37
"In this lobby, will there be TP? TP for my bunghole?" (NT) Heywood J Jul 2013 #97
So end the Catholic Lobby. Stay the fuck out of government, RCC. Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #141
my grand father was a mason. madrchsod Aug 2013 #152
Here is the key phrase Elmergantry Jul 2013 #5
Isn't it, though (ref to Masons). Delphinus Jul 2013 #6
No it's not he's speaking from his own experience. Masonic Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #14
Propaganda Due visca Jul 2013 #46
Thanks! I didnt know about that Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #49
It used to be . . . caseymoz Jul 2013 #40
re: "homosexual acts are sinful, homosexual orientation is not." thesquanderer Jul 2013 #67
So gays can never have sex, according to the FUCKED UP theology of the Catholics and most other dbackjon Jul 2013 #74
Sure they can have sex. thesquanderer Jul 2013 #76
Sure they can have sex... JackRiddler Jul 2013 #96
Yes and No. Elmergantry Jul 2013 #79
This is what passes for a charm offensive, RC Church-style, 2013. Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 #7
You got it. theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #9
Some won't be happy until the Pope shows up in a speedo at the Gay Pride parade. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #69
well said n/t Psephos Jul 2013 #99
No it isn't dbackjon Jul 2013 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author Nihil Jul 2013 #106
Deleted my previous response ... Nihil Jul 2013 #107
Ain't it the truth...I don't even want to post sometimes because of all the hostility that seems CTyankee Jul 2013 #133
Please explain how this statement is a "step" in any direction at all reorg Jul 2013 #109
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #116
dbackjon, you are my kind of guy! Skittles Jul 2013 #127
WTF Skittles Jul 2013 #126
So, Francis, how do you feel about women becoming priests? CTyankee Jul 2013 #8
Don't hold your breath waiting for responses theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #13
same old same old...as the saying goes... CTyankee Jul 2013 #17
Did you read the article? Maybe the margin will get thinner, but no priests... DreamGypsy Jul 2013 #45
Actually, I heard that on NPR this a.m. when I was driving to the library...I nearly swerved off CTyankee Jul 2013 #61
No, not okay! calimary Jul 2013 #120
But they already have jobs theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #128
Well, it's not exactly tolerance, but from the Catholic Church I'll take what I can get. Arkana Jul 2013 #10
Meaning 'I'm not gay so I don't care' Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #22
Not what I said, but you carry on beating that strawman. Arkana Jul 2013 #30
The OP is a Straw Pontiff, Francis said nothing that is new. 'hate the sin, love the sinner'. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #36
But women. He can judge the heck out of them. Jakes Progress Jul 2013 #12
Baby steps......... Beacool Jul 2013 #16
Celebrate when there is change, not when there is no change. It is insulting to GLBT people. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #21
There is a saying... theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #24
The difference is that this Pope can trick his followers into cheering for no difference. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #31
If you review the responses to the 80 previous Pope threads... theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #32
It is intentional anti gay activism. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #33
Yup! dbackjon Jul 2013 #56
Right on, Francis!!!! Beacool Jul 2013 #15
I agree, reform is going to take time for the Catholic Church davidpdx Jul 2013 #19
I attend a Lutheran church, but was raised Catholic. Beacool Jul 2013 #43
Why should there be "doctrine"? Jesus never said, "Believe this or be damned." Peace Patriot Jul 2013 #64
It goes back to Matthew 16:19 Elmergantry Jul 2013 #80
What he said is no different from what all his peers say 'as long as they are celebate, it is ok' Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #20
Pope didnt say anyhting new per the athiests Elmergantry Jul 2013 #25
Thank you. The mendacity around here is disgusting. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #29
The difference is that this is the first Pope who I have heard say Beacool Jul 2013 #42
He did not say that. Here is a discussion that is favorable to him, but also accurate about what Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #50
WHY ARE YOU CHEERING A FUCKING BIGOT>? dbackjon Jul 2013 #57
He's talking about the priests. Beacool Jul 2013 #77
No, he is NOT just talking about the priests. dbackjon Jul 2013 #78
This is not new nor kind it is what Dolanbigot says as well 'they are allowed freindship only' Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #18
Don't judge gays. Judge WOMEN instead. n/t cprise Jul 2013 #23
Judge women and gays who have sex. He says we have to be celebate. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #27
Exactly. "Love the sinner" is not bad; it's the claim that NYC Liberal Jul 2013 #68
pushing this here as if it was not retread hate speech is offensive. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #26
Correct. Hate the sin not the sinner is the position of many fundamentalist totodeinhere Jul 2013 #62
I call this "stumbling off the starting line" nevergiveup Jul 2013 #34
I call Alabama the Crimson Tide. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #39
No, he just judges them for wanting to have lives like straight people do. forestpath Jul 2013 #38
Other Popes have said about the same thing. caseymoz Jul 2013 #41
I appreciate his words, I do- BUT, I, and my 'acts', are not sinful, temptations, thorns in the cecilfirefox Jul 2013 #44
The rules for the private members club called the church dickthegrouch Jul 2013 #47
He will reverse himself just like he did with atheists Kelvin Mace Jul 2013 #48
Not perfect, but certainly a lot better than hanging gay people or stoning them to death. Nye Bevan Jul 2013 #51
'bout fucking time DainBramaged Jul 2013 #52
What is there to cheer? dbackjon Jul 2013 #58
(sigh) Would you rather he have said" kill all Gays let God sort them out"? DainBramaged Jul 2013 #59
I'd rather he just say "We still hate the gays" dbackjon Jul 2013 #60
Well then write the HolyFather and tell him how you feel DainBramaged Aug 2013 #139
And those are the choices as you see them? Full hate or hate couched in a cloud of rhetoric? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #138
What changed, this was the official position of the Catholic Church all along... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #70
He can still go fuck himself dbackjon Jul 2013 #54
Charming. As always. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #71
So I should be nice to a person that doesn't view me as fully human? dbackjon Jul 2013 #73
This is nothing new and has been in the Catechism for a long time NYC Liberal Jul 2013 #65
We shall see, but he sounds like a pretty good guy. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #66
Uhm, nothing has changed, he still thinks same sex marriage is from "The Father of Lies"... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #72
Just his way to duck the scandal that made ratzinger retire. Jakes Progress Jul 2013 #81
It's great that Duers are all mad about Catholics and stuff. Ash_F Jul 2013 #83
*Your results will vary if you are Gay dbackjon Jul 2013 #84
Particularly gays. Ash_F Jul 2013 #86
Really, you are going to scold him? Marrah_G Jul 2013 #89
Catholics aren't going anywhere, sorry. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #101
Your post was nasty, insulting and offensive Marrah_G Jul 2013 #111
Not meant as a slight? theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #95
By all means continue being angry. Ash_F Jul 2013 #100
I don't want to eliminate the Catholic Church dbackjon Jul 2013 #114
Judging by the responses to your posts elsewhere in this thread... Ash_F Jul 2013 #129
That is a strange claim considering that in Argentina Francis used marriage equality as his Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #137
Oh why bring up the truth at a time like this? theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #146
What attempt? This reiterates the Catechism that has been in place for 30+ years... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #93
That could be one takeaway Ash_F Jul 2013 #102
The past 3 popes always said don't hate the gays, but to them... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #121
Maybe, but this is the most overt statement in my recollection. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #130
Too bad this sicko church has caused untold suffering for millions over centuries. Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #142
Let's not cheer for someone being a little less of a bigot Marrah_G Jul 2013 #85
I don't think it is so much cheering as it is relief Ash_F Jul 2013 #87
Actually he was- except if they live a celibate life Marrah_G Jul 2013 #88
Bingo! trotsky Jul 2013 #122
Yes he did - unless we stay in the closet, and don't have sex dbackjon Jul 2013 #117
I don't see it as him being "slightly less bigoted" he just isn't as... Humanist_Activist Jul 2013 #92
At a time when GLBT citizens and women are fighting for their very lives and rights... theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #94
One sentence, now he's good to go for about five years till his next gay "kinda maybe". Safetykitten Jul 2013 #90
Is the Pope Catholic? grantcart Jul 2013 #98
Really DU? He condemned the evil "gay lobby." joshcryer Jul 2013 #103
then attack the anti gay policy DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #104
Cardinal Dolan was just on the Today Show theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #105
No progressive should ever cheer the Pope dbackjon Jul 2013 #118
Who are you to judge anyone, indeed? DeSwiss Jul 2013 #108
That's what I've always been told burnodo Aug 2013 #156
Bullshit. xfundy Jul 2013 #131
Wait, this is nothing that previous Sissyk Aug 2013 #135
True. The Bishop of Rome and his criminal Cardinals PM Martin Aug 2013 #140
Then he just ought to tell the catholic school who fired the teacher Amonester Aug 2013 #149
Is Francis The 'Boss' or Not??? Amonester Aug 2013 #150
unfortunately he doesn't have the time make lasting changes madrchsod Aug 2013 #151
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