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[Lugal Zaggesi]

169. Your thinking is muddled

You didn't read the article about the 95 year old Senior Olympics athlete. Mike Kilmer was NOT an "athlete" in his youth:

Kilmer noted that he wasn’t especially athletic in his youth. He began jogging in his 70s and competed in his first Olympics soon afterward.
"Being an "athlete" when one is young can mean that those body parts are getting worn down quicker--resulting in spinal degeneration and a hunched appearance." - thanks for that irrelevant observation - Mike Kilmer started *jogging* - not exactly NFL football - when he was in his 70's.

You apparently have no idea how OLD 95 really is:
“There isn’t anybody as old as I am still doing this,” he said. “For some reason or other, I’m still here at 95. Most of the people who’re 95 years old can’t hardly get around at all. When I first started out, of course, there were quite a few in my age group, but they kind of thinned out as I got older and now there isn’t anybody. I haven’t seen anybody in the Senior Olympics in the last 10 years in my age group.”

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/boomer-health/articles/2011/11/17/more-americans-living-to-90-us-census-finds
Nonagenarians were 0.6 % of the US population in 2010. Most of them -- 74 percent -- are women, particularly white women who live alone or in nursing homes, according to the report. Most have one or more disabilities. Most (85 percent) of those 90 and older say they have one or more physical limitations. About 66 percent have difficulty walking or climbing stairs. 95 years old is the OLDER half of 90-99.

As for your "horseback riding, hiking residents" - 95 is as much older than 62 as 36 is older than 3. There are not many 36 year olds checked into toddler day care centers. A lot happens in 33 years.

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Now let's talk about John Warna's reason for being so upset in the first place - he was involuntarily being stuffed into an ambulance on Friday night for medical treatment - show me one citation that staff was trying to transport this guy to the mental hospital - you made that up. His "assisted living" Nursing Home had decided he needed to be brought to a hospital for medical treatment, and he refused to go that Friday night - maybe he wanted to watch a baseball game on TV. Yet the staff felt they had the right to force him to go - so much for your "assisted living" assertions - for John Warna, this was a nursing home. "We decide. You obey."

"they wouldn't be smart enough to cough up a "faked" story about a knife ... BEFORE the guy even died."
According to an e-mailed press release from Park Forest police, officers were sent to 101 Main Street in Park Forest about 8:42 p.m. Friday to help a private ambulance company with a “combative” resident of the home there — Warna.

Why was the Police Department emailing out press releases to news organizations on Saturday ? Because local news organizations had gotten hold of the story that a 95 year old was tasered/shotgun-blasted by cops, and died a few hours later.

Here's the first local story:
http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/21566128-522/police-knife-wielding-senior-citizen-dies-after-being-tasered-hit-with-bean-bag-rounds.html
BY ALLISON HORTON Staff Reporter/[e-mail] July 27, 2013 11:57AM

John Warna - tasered/blasted Friday night, died Saturday 2:30 am, reporters on the story that Saturday morning, Park Forest police respond with an emailed "press release" that morning in response to inquiries. Cops know they will look very bad if they killed (and it's been ruled a homicide, by the way) a 95 year old wielding only a cane and a shoe horn. So what's the worst weapon they could claim he grabbed when they ordered him to accept his involuntary ambulance ride ? A "butcher" knife. So that's what they claim.

http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/21604323-522/death-of-man-95-tasered-by-police-is-ruled-a-homicide.html
The Illinois State Police Public Integrity Unit is reviewing the shooting incident.
Uh-oh - they will want witnesses to this alleged "butcher knife" attack. They will ask if Mr. Warna was cutting up whole chickens and vegetables in his "assisted living" nursing home room, or if he was a pudding-in-the-cafeteria guy. They will investigate why a taser that can stop NFL players didn't at least slow down the 95 year old Mr. Warna. The cops are going to have to pull in some favors, put out some threats... Too bad "Police Public Integrity Units" don't have a good reputation for going after police abuse, I'd love to see a real investigation of what happened, with photos.

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I find it very suspicious that the man who desperately didn't want to be stuffed in an ambulance Friday night was fighting off staff and ambulance drivers with a cane and a shoehorn, but when the cops arrived. And tasered him - but to "no effect" they claimed (what, the old guy has a faulty nervous system?). And shotgunned him. It turned out that all along, he merely had to "drop the shoehorn and grab a 12-inch butcher knife". What ? There was a butcher knife within reach that whole time he struggled with staff and burly ambulance drivers, but he forgot to grab it ? Come on.

I bet the back-dated police report will show that only the police were in the room when the "butcher knife" was pulled, because the staff and ambulance drivers had retreated to a safe distance out in the hall, away from the Fists of Fury 95-year-old. There will be no witnesses of the alleged "butcher knife" incident, but the cops will magically find such a knife in a large living complex, and say "yup, that's the knife. Nothing we could do. Had to shotgun him with lead from 8 feet, nothing else we could do. The old black guy was just a fighting machine - the Taser didn't even slow him down." I would also bet the original report was lost, and a nice, neat new one was filed Saturday afternoon, after contacting all the news organizations.