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[Lugal Zaggesi]

179. LOL

I've been waiting to see if John Wrana's family would retain a lawyer to investigate the ridiculous police story, and sure enough:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0802-20130803,0,6512125.column?page=1
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-met-kass-0802-20130803,0,6512125.column?page=2

Just a few weeks shy of his 96th birthday, in need of a walker to move about, cops coming through the door of his retirement home with a Taser and a shotgun.

The old man, described by a family member as "wobbly" on his feet, had refused medical attention. The paramedics were called. They brought in the Park Forest police.

First they tased him, but that didn't work. So they fired a shotgun, hitting him in the stomach with a bean-bag round. Wrana was struck with such force that he bled to death internally, according to the Cook County medical examiner.

Wrana's family wants answers. The Illinois State Police are investigating the horrific incident but won't comment, and neither will the Park Forest police pending the outcome of the inquiry.

I wasn't at the scene, and maybe the police have a good explanation. But common sense tells me that cops don't need a Taser or a shotgun to subdue a 95-year-old man.

And after doing some digging, I found there are two versions of events: The police version, and a new picture that raises questions of whether John Wrana was killed unnecessarily.

But lawyer Grapsas says that Wrana's family never saw a knife in his room and that staff also told him Wrana didn't have such a knife.

"So where did the knife come from?" Grapsas asked.

The police statement leaves the impression that the staff was under threat, leaving police with no choice other than to shoot him.

But according to Maria Oliva, an executive with Pathway Senior Living, the staff was kept out of the room after police arrived. So there was no imminent threat to staff.

"The staff was not inside once the police were on the scene," Oliva told us. "At different times the staff were in there, but not when they were called. They (the police) were in charge at that point."

Police said there had been threats made against the staff. But Grapsas said he was told that staff begged to be allowed to try to calm down the old man.

"If there were threats to the staff, why did the staff want to intervene and say, 'Let us handle this; we'll get him calmed down'?" he asked.

Grapsas says he was told that police used a riot shield to come through the door before shooting bean-bag rounds at the old man as he sat in his chair.

Riot shields are used to push back mobs of angry young protesters in the streets, or against dangerous convicts in prison cells, not to subdue an old, old man in a chair.

"At some point, I'm told there were between five and seven police officers, they went back to the room with a riot shield in hand, entered the door and shot him with a shotgun that contained bean-bag rounds," Grapsas said.

Sharon Mangerson, 74, doesn't see her stepfather as dangerous.

Will the family ever get an explanation?

"I want answers," she said. "I want someone held accountable."

Once you get a LAWYER to pushback against the contrived police version of events, an "axe" becomes a "meat cleaver" which is then found to be a "butter knife" - that was only used to prevent police from illegally breaking down his door - see my comment about 68 year old Mr. Chamberlain:

tased, lead-shot-bean-bag blasted, then shot and killed by police because your LifeAid medical alert pendant went off by accident at 4:00 am in the morning:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=554991

I posted that story yesterday on another thread - THAT guy (killed by cops last year) had family, who got a lawyer... he was also tased, shotgun blasted, but being only 68, they needed one real bullet too, to kill him. Again, their victim was a "threat" because "he had an axe - no, a meat cleaver - ok, a large butter knife".

I look forward to finding out what REALLY happened.