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83. That video is chilling.

Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:07 AM

Oct 2013

I have read the article up-thread about how deceiving the sight of a drowning person can be. But that video... wow. Even though that girl exhibited "classic" signs of drowning it is easy to see how it could be missed in all the commotion.

A couple things.

Maybe people should ease up on the parents in the OP.

Maybe we should consider laws regarding these "swim at your own risk" establishments since we know it often takes an EXPERT to spot drowning.

But good luck with regulating and/or suing a cruise line. Between contractual disclaimers, foreign registries and the hiding behind "laws of the seas" they are fairly immune not much more than a refund of a ticket price - if that.

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Florida boy, 6, drowns in Carnival cruise ship pool [View all] Cooley Hurd Oct 2013 OP

Where were the PARENTS?? You don't trust your kid's safety to kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #1

Yeah unreal... trumad Oct 2013 #2

Kids can drown in an instant. In fact, if a parent isn't aware of what drowning looks like, a msanthrope Oct 2013 #5

Yes, they can. Beacool Oct 2013 #22

Or even a bathtub at home. Amimnoch Oct 2013 #31

You're correct. Beacool Oct 2013 #39

Absolutely correct! n/t markpkessinger Oct 2013 #29

I came an *instant* from drowning as a kid Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #32

Oh my gosh, that must have been so terrifying... CoffeeCat Oct 2013 #54

You wouldn't believe it if I told you Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #65

That's an amazing experience... CoffeeCat Oct 2013 #70

I'm not sure Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #84

Interesting. At about the same age crim son Oct 2013 #91

True. It almost happened to my son while his father and I were sitting on the edge of the pool, merrily Oct 2013 #57

A lot of people don't know what drowning looks like. Neoma Oct 2013 #76

I could be wrong... Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #3

I have never seen lifeguards on any cruise ship, and No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #11

No life guards on Disney either Paulie Oct 2013 #42

I thought it likely that Disney wouldn't have life guards No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #47

What are "hasty efforts to resuscitate him?" Rhiannon12866 Oct 2013 #4

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #63

RIP little one Catherine Vincent Oct 2013 #6

Parent should have the rest of the kids taken from them. dbackjon Oct 2013 #23

i wonder how long he was there, and especially about the parents JI7 Oct 2013 #7

No lifeguards, huh Carnival?? darkangel218 Oct 2013 #8

I have sailed on three different cruise line, including Carnival. avebury Oct 2013 #14

There really should BE lifeguards, no matter how small the pools are. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #15

I have been on several cruises and, while some avebury Oct 2013 #17

Thats why it shouldnt be left to chance. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #18

I am more interested in the fact that parents (or guardians) need to avebury Oct 2013 #26

Consider where they were! on a cruise ship, with free alcohol, and no work to get up for in the morn darkangel218 Oct 2013 #27

Exactly, darkangel218 . . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #33

In a ship where you can.. EX500rider Oct 2013 #38

A cruise ship is not Ramada. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #41

Rightttttttt....nobody ever parties at hotels! EX500rider Oct 2013 #43

Comparing Ramada with cruise ships is just silly. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #44

No it's not, a cruise ship is just a floating hotel. EX500rider Oct 2013 #45

No it fucking isnt!! darkangel218 Oct 2013 #46

Not really sure what a resort is, are you? EX500rider Oct 2013 #48

Oh, i dont know what a resort is now! lmao! darkangel218 Oct 2013 #50

Well yeah you kinda do sound like that. EX500rider Oct 2013 #51

It's clear that you've never been on a cruise... Violet_Crumble Oct 2013 #60

As has been said multiple times Mojo Electro Oct 2013 #67

Alcohol is not free on a cruise ship, except for a reception, where wine and No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #49

Free alcohol? Tell me which cruise line so I can book a cruise with them! Violet_Crumble Oct 2013 #59

Agreed! If you think it takes a village SouthernDonkey Oct 2013 #87

praying with hands waving snooper2 Oct 2013 #9

People need to stop blaming Carnival Cruise Lines and the parents and take some self responsibility Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #10

Snake Plissken? Callmecrazy Oct 2013 #13

It isn't necessarily an either/or question . . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #35

As far as I know, no cruise ship company has lifeguards for their pools. avebury Oct 2013 #12

Big doesn't matter as much as deep. Lasher Oct 2013 #21

pools and little kids do not mix well dembotoz Oct 2013 #16

Pools without lifeguards and kids dont mix well. * darkangel218 Oct 2013 #19

Even with lifeguards, leaving a 10-year-old to supervise a 6 year old at a pool is STUPID. moriah Oct 2013 #24

I agree the parents should be held acountable. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #25

if you consider that they trawl the third world mitchtv Oct 2013 #68

Yes, they are low paid, nonunion help, but No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #71

True that. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #73

Chaque a son gout. No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #74

I travel a lot. I just prefer to stay away from cruises. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #77

Enjoy! No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #78

I do feel for the 10 year old. Mz Pip Oct 2013 #53

I'm sorry, Mz Pip. (n/t) Lefta Dissenter Oct 2013 #64

Errrr.........where the hell were the parents????????????? Beacool Oct 2013 #20

Near my father's grave at the local cemetery lies LibDemAlways Oct 2013 #28

That's tragic.Can't believe they couldn't revive him because he was spotted while 'struggling' Sunlei Oct 2013 #30

Read, mark and inwardly digest this article . . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #34

good article. yes drowning is silent Sunlei Oct 2013 #36

Thank you for this link. smokey nj Oct 2013 #52

+1 People are so quick to blame others Live and Learn Oct 2013 #58

Spot the drowning kid. Ash_F Oct 2013 #62

thank you 53tammy Oct 2013 #66

That video is chilling. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #83

Damn, that's a frightening video! Thanks for posting it... petronius Oct 2013 #85

Very informative. treestar Oct 2013 #82

My son when he was young we went on two cruises kimbutgar Oct 2013 #37

Carnival pools are deathtraps. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2013 #40

Cruises are disgusting. They pollute the ocean. You catch strange diseases on them. And now this. zonkers Oct 2013 #55

I travel a lot but the only cruise I would consider would be a small ship on a river in Western CTyankee Oct 2013 #72

That sounds like fun. Lets go!!! I need a vacation. zonkers Oct 2013 #80

Hubby and I have been looking at a Vantage cruise. He has mobility issues and hasn't been CTyankee Oct 2013 #81

I hear very good things about river cruises in Europe, though No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #86

About the bus part of your trip on the ship, was it handicap accessible? that looks like it could be CTyankee Oct 2013 #89

The buses were not handicap accessible in the US sense of definition, but No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #90

This will be my 3rd RS trip by myself. Nobody else I knew was interested... CTyankee Oct 2013 #92

I don't understand how a parent could leave a 6 year old unattended in a pool! CoffeeCat Oct 2013 #56

I have to wonder if one of the areas of the pool had suction to clean it and maybe that dragged him davidpdx Oct 2013 #61

not to mention mitchtv Oct 2013 #69

Yes, eww! davidpdx Oct 2013 #79

The parents should be prosecuted Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #88