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65. you mean by "if"?

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Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:18 AM

Oct 2013

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White House Says �All Nations� Spy, Vows to Review Espionage Tactics. [View all] dipsydoodle Oct 2013 OP

So when our friend and neighbor jump off a cliff Rain Mcloud Oct 2013 #1

The French huffing and puffing over this is pretty amusing. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #2

Have you compared their spying budget to ours? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #5

Do you really think they're surprised to learn that the US geek tragedy Oct 2013 #6

Hmmm. We all know that the Mafia is up to no good. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #8

On a scale of 1-10, how shocked would you be to learn geek tragedy Oct 2013 #11

So, let's have an international protocol that puts an end to all of it. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #22

Sure, we can call it the "No spying on terrorists allowed act" nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #23

The French intel agencies are pretty good. alfredo Oct 2013 #57

this is not the same spying that "all nations" do.... mike_c Oct 2013 #3

Why not eliminate spying, surveillance, etc. altogether? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #10

Where were you on 9/11? ehcross Oct 2013 #56

You mean the terrorist attack caused by your own government? brisas2k Oct 2013 #60

So if outright elimination isn't the solution Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #64

Maybe not all nations, but the French do exactly the same thing geek tragedy Oct 2013 #12

and it's just as unacceptable as the U.S. surveillance program.... mike_c Oct 2013 #44

Maybe not all nations, but the French do exactly the same thing ehcross Oct 2013 #55

so it will be just fine when other nations do the same thing reddread Oct 2013 #4

They're already doing it, and will continue to do it geek tragedy Oct 2013 #7

then why is Ed Snowden an issue reddread Oct 2013 #9

Here or abroad? geek tragedy Oct 2013 #13

thank you reddread Oct 2013 #17

It's the vast scope of our program that troubles them. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #19

The only reason the French govt would be upset is because they think geek tragedy Oct 2013 #21

and what upsets decent Americans is unreasonable search and seizure reddread Oct 2013 #27

Sure, we have a right to demand that no one spy on us. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #30

what, you worry? reddread Oct 2013 #32

No we don't need to extend our constitutional beliefs overseas. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #34

good luck with that reddread Oct 2013 #38

"perfectly good intelligence" = "results of effective spying" nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #39

"Decent Americans" should be upset about spying and covert warfare Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #31

ya think? reddread Oct 2013 #33

I'm just trying to correct the fallacy some have Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #37

oh yes, the simplest tools of technology will not go back in Pandora's box reddread Oct 2013 #40

So you're saying there is such a thing as legit surveillance and spying? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #43

eh, what? Is that your hand up my butt? reddread Oct 2013 #45

My apologies then.. Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #46

sure reddread Oct 2013 #48

here you go Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #50

Yes, all decent people oppose spying on terrorists or otherwise geek tragedy Oct 2013 #35

i cant tell, are the words twisted? reddread Oct 2013 #41

the person is stating that we should never spy on anyone. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #42

youre right about that, although maybe you dont mean to be? reddread Oct 2013 #47

Gladio actually proves my point Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #51

thanks for elaborating reddread Oct 2013 #52

Glad you find all this funny Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #63

I know on the surface it sounds silly and absolutist Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #49

heres the deal, take it or leave it reddread Oct 2013 #54

I don't feel safer under them Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #62

you mean by "if"? reddread Oct 2013 #65

well, if everyone is doing it, it must be okay. olddad56 Oct 2013 #14

That's right. The good old #14. "Other countries" execute adulterers too. PSPS Oct 2013 #16

So what is your proposed solution to the issue? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #26

I think the message is more of: Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #25

So "other countries" record and store for future use all of my email/phone calls/internet traffic? PSPS Oct 2013 #15

derp geek tragedy Oct 2013 #20

Tres bien! C'est chiffre quatorze! PSPS Oct 2013 #24

You have a deep emotional resentment of Obama supporters. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #28

Let's hope our Congress does something to bring this program into perspective. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #18

The cynic in me says Congress will do jack shit at the end of the day Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #29

Well duh! Of course they all do it. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #36

Thats true. iandhr Oct 2013 #53

All nations? So we should worry about Kiribati now? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #58

Caitlin Hayden loves to role play a 8 year old. /nt Ash_F Oct 2013 #59

This is the strongest possible reasonable response to being caught... Orsino Oct 2013 #61