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14. The mythology of Bronze age primitives hold the KEY to all this...

Wed Oct 23, 2013, 03:22 PM

Oct 2013

On the one hand we have the majesty of science and all the answers and truths it has revealed. It has shown us a universe with hundreds of Billions of galaxies, each galaxy packed with hundreds of Billions of stars. Science has allowed us to look 13 Billion years back in time, virtually to the moment of the Big Bang, and it routinely gives us miracles.

On the other hand we have the "miracles" of faith -- the big ones include such marvels as a talking snake, a burning bush, people rising from the dead, and toast that looks like Jesus. As they say: Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings.

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New galaxy 'most distant' yet discovered [View all] Octafish Oct 2013 OP

"It's on the other side of practically forever." SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2013 #1

+1 nt Poll_Blind Oct 2013 #33

Even with the good mileage on my car i'd have to fill up a couple of times to get there! LOL n/t RKP5637 Oct 2013 #51

Not "it is." Archae Oct 2013 #2

How odd that a supposed loving God creaed the Universe as a massive Con Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #6

It does sound silly when you put it that way. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #11

I was (un)fortuntate enough to be stuck in the whirlpool at the gym with some of these ... Myrina Oct 2013 #7

Thanks for posting this! Stupid even pales to even begin to describe the RKP5637 Oct 2013 #52

So what you are saying is that christx30 Oct 2013 #56

Methinks there's a typo. It should be 13 billion ly away, not 30. thereismore Oct 2013 #3

Yes but... brooklynite Oct 2013 #5

30 Billion is correct Treant Oct 2013 #8

(I was wrong) If 30 billion light years is correct, then the record was more than doubled. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #9

It depends on which distance scale one uses D Gary Grady Oct 2013 #20

I'm assuming that the 30 billion light-years away cpwm17 Oct 2013 #22

Very good post. In a way, we are really lucky to even see anything outside the Milky Way. thereismore Oct 2013 #28

And they're seemlessly mixing and matching. Igel Oct 2013 #29

"But when that light was emitted, it was inside our visible universe." Poll_Blind Oct 2013 #34

13.7bn years old and 93bn lightyears across. Cosmological expansion gets counterintuitive. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #26

Hmm...why would God put a Galaxy that far away and make it appear so old? brooklynite Oct 2013 #4

He's the ultimate practical joker. onehandle Oct 2013 #18

There are two classes of creationists. Igel Oct 2013 #30

I don't buy it. SpankMe Oct 2013 #10

space expands faster than light, only light and objects are limited to the light speed limit Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #16

So if something could hookup to the expanding galaxy it could go faster than the speed of light? Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #37

mass becomes infinite at the speed of light according to relativity Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #43

In theory at some point in the future could it be possible to create a photon double bubble Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #44

Or, according to one physicist... derby378 Oct 2013 #54

That is a fascinating article, the key seems to be finding or creating the necessary exotic matter. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #55

No, that's right. The observable universe is actually about 93 billion lightyears in diameter. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #25

I'm going to have to drag out my trusty telescope and check that Galaxy out. BlueJazz Oct 2013 #12

article says the light took 13.1B years to arrive, but space itself has inflated MisterP Oct 2013 #13

The mythology of Bronze age primitives hold the KEY to all this... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #14

"Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings" KansDem Oct 2013 #17

I wish I could take credit for it, as it's perfect... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #31

Science flies you to the moon, Religion flies you into buildings. warrant46 Oct 2013 #24

Can we send the GOP there? winter is coming Oct 2013 #15

Remember the Phantom Zone, where Superman sent Lex Luthor? Octafish Oct 2013 #19

I remember Raven Rock and other "undisclosed" locations, I remember that we have a shadow gov. too bobthedrummer Oct 2013 #53

ha ha. riversedge Oct 2013 #21

There is no left or right in space ThoughtCriminal Oct 2013 #32

Creation continues. Hekate Oct 2013 #23

Something puzzles me...... lastlib Oct 2013 #27

space itself is not limited by the light speed limit Bacchus4.0 Oct 2013 #35

So would that mean that light we're seeing now from that galaxy penultimate Oct 2013 #48

If space expands faster than the speed of light, the light from that galaxy can never reach us. AdHocSolver Oct 2013 #39

I would guess that it used to be much closer. That's the light we can see, not the grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #41

Expansion is kind of an alien concept for most and not crystal clear for anyone, as far as I can see TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #45

"a near religious like need to think they have the full picture" bananas Oct 2013 #46

Maybe one can think of it like a fire hose at 50 yards, the water that's grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #47

Great! DeSwiss Oct 2013 #36

30 billion light years. Aristus Oct 2013 #38

Shit! That's where I parked my car!!! grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #40

I hope you had valet parking...... lastlib Oct 2013 #42

That's theoretically impossible, and you know it... penultimate Oct 2013 #49

At last... christx30 Oct 2013 #50