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In reply to the discussion: Snowden Leak: The NSA Has Been Monitoring Phone Calls of 35 World Leaders [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I'm sorry, but this is so serious an issue that I fail to see why anyone should be concerned about ANYTHING other than the crimes committed by the Bush Gang which you may remember, were covered up by Democrats.
Had we had a thorough investigation of Bush/Cheney War Crimes and Wall St. Corruption that brought down the world's economy, we would not have needed whistle blowers to do the job the government failed to do. I am and remain furious at Democrats who told us we need to 'move on' from all the crimes we the people KNEW ABOUT, which means they knew even more.
The huge effort that succeeded in 2008 to throw out the entire Republican power machine in DC happened because WE THOUGHT something would be done about the already known crimes, including the NSA Spying.
Do you remember that?? Or have people so quickly forgotten? How Congress, with the help of Dems COVERED for Bush/Cheney and the Telecoms by CHANGING THE LAW and making it 'retroactive' to LEGALIZE the crimes the committed. There was NO DOUBT at that time that they had committed crimes.
And do you also remember the shock to his supporters, including me, when Obama, after stating he would not vote for the FISA Bill amendment, went ahead and did so.
So let's not pretend that only Republicans are responsible. In fact many Republicans quit their jobs in the DOJ because of what they saw going on and people like Comey and Ashcroft, neither of whom could be considered liberal in any way, risked everything to try to stop Cheney/Gonzales from violating the law.
And then they changed the law to protect Bush, including Dems. That was a tragic time for this country. We would have had support across party lines at that time, instead we lost, again.
Mannings revelations were mostly about Bush era War Crimes. That is when he was in the military. But knee jerk reactions to protect parties over country, ignored that and Republicans once again got cover from Dems.
Until people stop ignoring the reality of the past decade, we will never get anywhere. This isnt about politicians, this is about THIS COUNTRY. It has gone too far to be about politics anymore.