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16. Not having kids is not the end of the world?

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 02:21 PM

Nov 2013

Where is your empathy for these two young girls who became menopausal before their senior proms? I would ask you put yourself in their shoes. They are no longer healthy teenagers, their bodies have been changed forever and they are suffering symptoms of menopause. To them and their parents, I'm sure it is the end of the world.

I understand your point and I agree with you about the antivaxers, but please don't be so callous.

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Sisters claim HPV vaccine caused ovarian failure and premature menopause [View all] TeaBagsAreForCups Nov 2013 OP

Well, they can say anything they want. Deep13 Nov 2013 #1

Medical science readily admits that the vaccine will injure (and kill) some people. Xithras Nov 2013 #4

All vaccines may carry some risk for some people, including the flu vaccine. It is a question of lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #21

Whooping cough (pertussis) has remained part of the regular DTP shot dflprincess Nov 2013 #55

Also because a lot of people are not geating vaccines lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #56

After stepping on a rusty nail 3 years ago, Quantess Nov 2013 #69

The Dpt shot has always required booster shots demigoddess Nov 2013 #70

For quite a while adults & older kids were only given boosters for tetnus dflprincess Nov 2013 #72

Yup. It is a contest of probabilities. Deep13 Nov 2013 #42

Why should they be compensated exactly? cstanleytech Nov 2013 #67

You and I actually compensate the victims, not the corporations. And it's the right thing to do. Xithras Nov 2013 #68

My daughter is due for this pretty soon Scairp Nov 2013 #18

Infinitesimal risk of infertility. Bette Noir Nov 2013 #20

Yes I've been an ardent supporter Scairp Nov 2013 #29

Numbers of vaccinations mean very little NickB79 Nov 2013 #31

My sister and brother in law ended up getting shingles in their 20s because they had chickenpox... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #32

Varicella Vaccination Program Success HuckleB Nov 2013 #33

Life as a mother was hell before we had vaccines. Marrah_G Nov 2013 #74

Preventing one of the leading causes of cervical cancer is brilliant lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #22

Not analytical thinking HERVEPA Nov 2013 #28

Nothing is worse than cervical cancer. nt Deep13 Nov 2013 #41

Yes, there is YarnAddict Nov 2013 #49

ALS has been "linked" to Gardisil? What does that mean? Deep13 Nov 2013 #50

that's a very generalized statement... DesertRat Nov 2013 #53

most HPV cases go away by themselves womanofthehills Nov 2013 #51

Get her the vaccine Marrah_G Nov 2013 #73

It could be years til there is evidence notadmblnd Nov 2013 #35

We know the effect of cervical cancer. It kills women. nt Deep13 Nov 2013 #40

About 4000 women a year die from cervical cancer notadmblnd Nov 2013 #44

How many of those women were having getting annual pap smears? dflprincess Nov 2013 #57

Oh Boy.... PatrynXX Nov 2013 #36

didn't say any of that. nt Deep13 Nov 2013 #39

If you haven't taken Luvox in a decade... Orrex Nov 2013 #43

Have you had the Epley or Foster Maneuvers done on you? Thor_MN Nov 2013 #65

All vaccines have some injury rates which is why we have national programs to deal with such claims Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #71

Let me know leftynyc Nov 2013 #2

Asked and answered; kindly see Post... TeaBagsAreForCups Nov 2013 #5

I've also added some background links in post #7 Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #9

wow it may just be from the article azurnoir Nov 2013 #3

Are there studies that back this up? leftynyc Nov 2013 #12

Not that I know of but this could be a singular case too ETA azurnoir Nov 2013 #15

Agree leftynyc Nov 2013 #26

I thought adjuvants were banned in the US meadowlark5 Nov 2013 #13

There was a story a week or so ago laundry_queen Nov 2013 #61

I'm not sure what the adjuvant was in the H1N1 vaccine meadowlark5 Nov 2013 #64

How many people given the vaccine are infertile? How many people given the vaccine have removed one lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #23

further explanation azurnoir Nov 2013 #30

Because, being sisters, they couldn't possibly have some weird shared genetic problem kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #6

You are likely right about the shared genetic background - Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #8

Possibly. But the antivaxers will use this to try to get the vaccine pulled, in spite kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #10

Not having kids is not the end of the world? Avalux Nov 2013 #16

Death is more the end. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #24

I don't belong to the breeder camp. Having children is not the be-all kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #59

It is to people who want them. laundry_queen Nov 2013 #62

I respect your choice to not have children. Avalux Nov 2013 #63

The article and informed opinions in this thread are very interesting and valuable... Hekate Nov 2013 #17

Not just infertility, unfortunately. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #25

If you really believe in choice, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #34

They are infertile. This has no bearing on my political opinion kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #58

No huge benefit to society womanofthehills Nov 2013 #52

Yeah, its going away for my best friend, along with her ovaries and cervix. n/t Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #60

I totally agree with you - not being able to have kids isn't the end of the world PassingFancy Nov 2013 #75

I find it very frightening as well. TBF Nov 2013 #76

The common factor in all of my concerns about vaccines Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #7

A rather large study was done regarding Gardisil cannondale Nov 2013 #11

Vaccines are neither completely safe, nor completely harmful. Avalux Nov 2013 #14

Japan withdraws support of controversial HPV vaccine over safety concerns OhioChick Nov 2013 #19

Then don't have the vaccine. Nobody forces anyone to take the HPV vaccine. The majority of people lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #27

In Texas there was a christx30 Nov 2013 #45

That is Rick Perry, doesn't extrapolate elsewhere, including Texas since they overturned it lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #47

My wife and I both tested negative for HPV. AAO Nov 2013 #37

First of all it is approved for people age 9 to 26. Studies are being done to determine if other lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #48

Vaccine Injury Compensation Program mentioned in OP will be the subject of House hearing next month. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #66

OGR Chair Issa "Delays" Hearings on Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. Affected Families Stunned. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #77

Bloomberg Market Makers Video: The Economics of Vaccines proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #46

Related. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #54