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jtuck004

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12. Awww, look. They wrote a whole book about people with ideas such as those.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 01:36 PM
Nov 2013

http://www.unscientificamerica.com/



There is, perhaps, a hundred years of well-substantiated science which shows that punishment, defined and distinct from positive and negative reinforcement, can change behavior but also creates unwanted behaviors and aggression, almost all of it destructive in some way, and nearly always perpetrated by the powerful against the smaller and less powerful. It is administered by people we call bullies. It's irrelevant whether they are parents or dog owners or whomever, when they resort to punishment they are satisfying an inner urge for aggression, perhaps born of a deep-seated sexual frustration or inability to deal with being weaker than everyone in the life around them, going beyond simply changing behavior, doing nothing more than beating up on the weak. Not much difference between them and some mass murderer, they just prefer, many times, to do their cowardly work behind closed doors.

People who use punishment deserve every consequence that can be mustered against them. They are no better than the lowest, most despicable criminals in our society. That includes the teacher who hits a kid, (such as the ones ion Boston who soaked switches in vinegar to beat black children because, as they said, "their skins are tougher, you know&quot , or the pathetic bully of a parent who smacks the kid on the tuckus.

If the goal is changing behavior, they should get a book, read up on behavioral theories taught in the most basic of college courses, and move their thinking out of the 18th century. Or just join the rest of the people who deny that the earth is getting warmer and that vaccines cause autism, and quit being a lying hypocrite.

At every opportunity they get pushed back by the system. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #1
As a former teacher, I'm not at all surprised by this. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #2
Knock me down with a feather n/t the_sly_pig Nov 2013 #3
racism is systemic heaven05 Nov 2013 #4
Positive reinforcement works much better. bemildred Nov 2013 #5
It was child abuse when I saw my third grade classmates paddled mountain grammy Nov 2013 #6
Fuckers beat me with a board sorefeet Nov 2013 #7
The problem is the immaturity of children when they start school. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #16
Sorry to hear about that. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #23
Sadist who likes to hurt children Kolesar Nov 2013 #26
How about we just give up our children at birth to those who think they can do it better? Android3.14 Nov 2013 #8
this is school-based corporal puishment d_r Nov 2013 #9
This article is about paddling children *by school officials, in school* antigone382 Nov 2013 #10
Awww, look. They wrote a whole book about people with ideas such as those. jtuck004 Nov 2013 #12
Gee, ya think? TBF Nov 2013 #11
The question is causation. Does the corporal punishment CAUSE the failure of the child in school. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #13
best post in this thread n/t Psephos Nov 2013 #14
it doesn't directly answer your question d_r Nov 2013 #15
How common is corporal punishment in the schools? JDPriestly Nov 2013 #17
CA: apple, Alabama: orange. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #18
Did the study or article explain why California is apples and Alabama oranges? JDPriestly Nov 2013 #20
You just explained it upthread. California doesn't allow corporal punishment. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #21
19 states allow corporal punishment d_r Nov 2013 #19
Studies prove the point Duppers Nov 2013 #22
Yeah, sadly, that is true. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #24
Akin to beatings in southern prisons, IMHO eom Kolesar Nov 2013 #27
Or on quite a few antebellum plantations. nt AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #31
And to think it only took getting to the 21st century for us to figure this out. DeSwiss Nov 2013 #25
always better to appeal to their minds and not their behinds. olddad56 Nov 2013 #28
Here is a youtube video d_r Nov 2013 #29
I had no idea they still paddled in schools Marrah_G Nov 2013 #30
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