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Alamuti Lotus

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17. That is a superficial line of argument, really
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 12:38 AM
Dec 2013

I see where you're going with it, but you're scratching barely beneath the surface of its importance. For example, there are ties and affinities between the Indian liberation movement and the Nazis as well, equally innocuous given the greater context. Decontextualizing the topic just to prove an otherwise spurious point (of which more anon) with Jihadwatch Jessie is further compounding the distortion of the line of argument you are pursuing.

While I also risk oversimplifying the subject in the process of pointing out that the common arch-enemy of the three forces mentioned was the British Empire--in the case of India and Egypt, as a directly occupying power, and in the case of Germany an irredentist rival--that is an extremely important factor in the consideration of this matter, rather than any particular idealogical affinity. The political doctrine conceived by Hasan al-Banna and Sayyid Qutb has little, if anything, to what you suggest, except in the sense of a transitory confluence of forces that amounts to nothing more than convenience of otherwise contradictory objectives.

Besides, I'm sure Jessie already knows all about the British-installed Husayni from the thoroughly mutilated "history"--if that's what it could be called--in the hasbara that is ingested and vomited on an already-pervasive basis. You don't need to convince this individual of any real or imagined "Islam"/"Fascist" connection, the point being made is one and the same as when crude chumps whine about things they're "not allowed to say" because it's not "politically correct". Disingenuous is a kind phrase, but I'm not allowed to call it what it really is.

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This is why we should support Bashar Assad's government cosmicone Dec 2013 #2
He was brutal to damn near everyone else, too, let's not lie. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #3
how was he brutal compared to these maniacs? ausboy Dec 2013 #5
Welcome to DU..nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #7
Finally a voice of someone who has been there! cosmicone Dec 2013 #8
+1 burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #23
You bet! demosincebirth Dec 2013 #27
Thanks for saving that jamzrockz Dec 2013 #11
"This is why we should support Bashar Assad's government" oberliner Dec 2013 #6
Read post No. 5 instead of cosmicone Dec 2013 #9
I've read it oberliner Dec 2013 #28
Yes, from an American perspective it's better to deal with an autocratic Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #13
its been 3 years... ausboy Dec 2013 #19
What has stuck me, watching battle footage, is how amazing the country is. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #20
Like when we backed the Shah in Iran? oberliner Dec 2013 #29
Failing to support him in the end was a big mistake. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #34
Wherever we have not supported constructed authority burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #24
In Iran, we supported constructed authority oberliner Dec 2013 #30
We refused to support constructed authority, burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #35
No, we should not support war criminals muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #33
Let me get this straight ... cosmicone Dec 2013 #41
No; you are profoundly mistaken muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #42
If we don't support Assad cosmicone Dec 2013 #43
I am appalled to see anyone on DU suggesting supprting Assad muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #44
There is no evidence that Assad has been a mass murderer cosmicone Dec 2013 #45
US Dept of State and Human Rights Watch: muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #46
A few isolated cases cosmicone Dec 2013 #47
"A few isolated murders" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #48
No need to take it so personally cosmicone Dec 2013 #49
Our hatred of Assad is another Neocon adventure. Best articulated by one of it's architects mccain Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #51
If no one has noticed, there is a war on Christians in ME countries. jessie04 Dec 2013 #4
It is because in the name of democracy cosmicone Dec 2013 #10
Islam ? Fascists ? jessie04 Dec 2013 #12
No, if you say that you're opening yourself to charges of being uninformed and simplistic. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #14
Read up on the alliances between the muslim brotherhood and the Nazi's Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #15
That is a superficial line of argument, really Alamuti Lotus Dec 2013 #17
I understand your desire to bring this up, but it's off topic. burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #36
You sound well informed. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #39
It's an important subject. burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #40
I am not calling all Islam as fascist cosmicone Dec 2013 #22
Look at the 14-point definition of fascism. burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #37
"The secular dictators is the best solution for these countries" oberliner Dec 2013 #31
Their understanding of democracy is best interpreted as burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #38
And there's a war on Christmas too! Oh noes! Alamuti Lotus Dec 2013 #18
There is a war on religious minorities in some parts of the ME. That is real. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #21
The Christians here are extremely ungrateful burnsei sensei Dec 2013 #25
Well said! hrmjustin Dec 2013 #26
No, just actual Christians oberliner Dec 2013 #32
I just noticed this was Maaloula which a tourist attraction these clowns attacked Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #16
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