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AtheistCrusader

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14. Both.
Tue Dec 10, 2013, 12:45 PM
Dec 2013

I view most of the acts on both sides of WWII as a complete suspension of civilization. Not just Fat Man and Little Boy. The deliberate targeting of cities/civilians by both sides, MAXIMUM EFFORT, mass exterminations in Europe/East Europe, and around the SE Pacific, you name it.

Brawls don't get much dirtier than that one, short of terminating our entire species. We've recovered a bit, but you still see echoes of it every time there's a 'minor' regional skirmish. When people passively accept things like our plan for SHOCK AND AWE in Iraq. (Rapid Dominance military doctrine, adopted by the US military, known in WWII as blitzkrieg) To intentionally destroy "means of communication, transportation, food production, water supply, and other aspects of infrastructure" inherently requires targeting civilians, even while the other side of the SecDef's mouth is claiming to seek to avoid civilian casualties.

We've gotten better, but that thin veneer of civilization is always easy to strip away, if someone 'gets out of line' and we need to apply 'overwhelming force' to 'end the conflict quickly'.

Not much more than a thin veneer. And we see where that got us in Iraq...

New report from IPPNW: two billion at risk from nuclear famine bananas Dec 2013 #1
PDF and additional info bananas Dec 2013 #2
I'm surprised Treant Dec 2013 #4
And in late breaking news, water is wet. n/t sarge43 Dec 2013 #3
Well duh CFLDem Dec 2013 #5
That's where our ICBMs are ... Alhena Dec 2013 #23
That's another good reason, too. CFLDem Dec 2013 #29
And the hits keep coming! Orrex Dec 2013 #6
I would like to believe that the power brokers of the world knew this already. canoeist52 Dec 2013 #7
How likely is it in any given year that Pakistan and India will push the buttons? drynberg Dec 2013 #8
I'm very concerned that this will happen some day. They are constantly antagonizing each other... stevenleser Dec 2013 #26
These guys are just a bunch of doom-crying traitors who don't want us to nuke Iran. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #9
I thnk using weapons that destroy entire cities would mark the 'end of civilization' AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #10
really??? heaven05 Dec 2013 #11
Yup. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #15
It's not very "civil" to destroy entire cities. bananas Dec 2013 #18
sorry to be misunderstood heaven05 Dec 2013 #19
We're all just souls with good intentions being misunderstood bananas Dec 2013 #21
i love her, especially heaven05 Dec 2013 #33
Oh dear, I misunderstood your post entirely. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #28
Eric Burdon - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (Lugano, 2006) bananas Dec 2013 #30
I hadn't listened to him in years. Great rendition. thanks. heaven05 Dec 2013 #34
"Would mark" or "marked"? truebluegreen Dec 2013 #13
Both. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #14
Agree totally. truebluegreen Dec 2013 #16
Interesting. I've not heard of that book. I'll check it out soon. AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #17
"that thin veneer of civilization is always easy to strip away" bananas Dec 2013 #20
Eric Burdon - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (Lugano, 2006) bananas Dec 2013 #27
That is believable especially since from what I have read the famine that sent Eastern Europeans jwirr Dec 2013 #12
I don't think these kind of modelings are very precise ... Alhena Dec 2013 #24
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #22
So will climate change. GliderGuider Dec 2013 #25
civilization as we know it madrchsod Dec 2013 #31
If that were to happen, the survivors will envy the dead. olddad56 Dec 2013 #32
I have to question this- we and the Soviets went crazy in the 50's and 60's detonating nukes Lee-Lee Dec 2013 #35
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