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(11,014 posts) Thu Dec 19, 2013, 06:45 PM Dec 2013

Diplomat's arrest: US distances itself from Preet Bharara's comments; India wants apology, case drop [View all]

Source: Times of India

NEW DELHI: The American "regret", conveyed on Wednesday night by US secretary of state John Kerry, has left India unimpressed. New Delhi on Thursday clarified that it has two demands - that the case against Khobragade be dropped and that the US tender an apology for the diplomat's humiliation.

This nudged Washington to follow up Kerry's call with more overtures. Late on Thursday evening, US under secretary of state for political affairs Wendy Sherman called up foreign secretary Sujatha Singh to convey that the US government does not share US attorney Preet Bharara's views on this case. She also offered a consular dialogue between India and US to resolve the problems of domestic staff and immunity issues.

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Indians point to two instances. In the first, Raymond Davis, a CIA contractor in Lahore who had been arrested for murder was declared to have full diplomatic immunity by no less than US president Barack Obama. Lahore is a consular post, and by US law Davis was not eligible for immunity.

The second is a more recent case. A group of Russian diplomats targeted by Preet Bharara's office for social security fraud were not arrested at the last minute, because the State Department stepped in and told Bharara's office that all of them enjoyed full diplomatic immunity, even though many of the diplomats were nowhere as senior as Khobragade.
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Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Diplomats-arrest-US-distances-itself-from-Preet-Bhararas-comments-India-wants-apology-case-dropped/articleshow/27666819.cms

This under the backdrop of FULL IMMUNITY to Pakistani Terrorist in Chief Shuja Pasha (Director of ISI) who has been named as a terrorist in a NY Federal case.

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Diplomat's arrest: US distances itself from Preet Bharara's comments; India wants apology, case drop [View all] cosmicone Dec 2013 OP

Biased source. Please find a real link. closeupready Dec 2013 #1

Times of India is the world's largest circulation English paper cosmicone Dec 2013 #4

since when is TOI an unreliable source? mike_c Dec 2013 #38

this is starting to remind me of those defending Duck Dynasty JI7 Dec 2013 #2

But wait! Purple heart band-aids! Pakistani terrorism! closeupready Dec 2013 #3

the OP claimed in another thread that the nanny being paid slave wages JI7 Dec 2013 #7

Oopphh, teehee! That's a rather interesting use of an old saw. closeupready Dec 2013 #8

What do Americans pay to their household help in India? cosmicone Dec 2013 #6

so you think it should be ok to pay indian citizens working in the US JI7 Dec 2013 #9

It has not even been established if the maid was paid less than minimum cosmicone Dec 2013 #12

The maid was an Indian citizen, working for a representative of the Indian government... smitra Dec 2013 #43

then why did she lie about it on the application, no it's not ok to pay someone slave wages JI7 Dec 2013 #51

The BBC said there were two contracts. One to meet the Vienna Conv/US requirements and the real one okaawhatever Dec 2013 #112

I will answer it and it is not a fair question. The answer to both what the US consuls pay their okaawhatever Dec 2013 #114

This - Visa Fraud JustAnotherGen Dec 2013 #126

Any links to cases violating the law of India? treestar Dec 2013 #116

The maid ended up at a safe house for human-traffick victims, from what I've read. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #5

The maid came here voluntarily cosmicone Dec 2013 #10

slavery is not ok JI7 Dec 2013 #13

What slavery? cosmicone Dec 2013 #19

it's not ok to pay someone less than minimum wage and make up for it with a plane ticket or some JI7 Dec 2013 #23

Again, it has NOT been established that she was not paid minimum wage cosmicone Dec 2013 #41

it's been established a lot more than the Maid being a CIA Agent JI7 Dec 2013 #45

No, that's merely been charged. That's why we have trials. Recursion Dec 2013 #98

The BBC is reporting that there were two contracts. One for $573 per month. That's a pretty specific okaawhatever Dec 2013 #113

Has this case been tried already? Could you link us to the resolution of the maid's case where we sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #107

if you are paying less than 3 dollars in the US it's fucking Slavery JI7 Dec 2013 #108

I asked for links, not your personal 'reporting'. Where are you getting this from, was there a trial sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #111

OMG. THE SCHEMING MAID!!!! TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #14

well, she is a CIA Agent JI7 Dec 2013 #16

She may be. Do you know for sure she is not? n/t cosmicone Dec 2013 #21

it's no different than those who think MAlala is JI7 Dec 2013 #27

Explain how that works Bradical79 Dec 2013 #55

How do you prove someone is? cosmicone Dec 2013 #58

Two clearly different tasks Bradical79 Dec 2013 #71

How many people knew Valerie Plame was a CIA agent cosmicone Dec 2013 #78

That makes no sense. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #87

Yes, unless the CIA wanted to spy on the halfway house for trafficked women Recursion Dec 2013 #97

If she is, does that mean she deserves the low pay? treestar Dec 2013 #117

That angle is *everywhere* here in India. Recursion Dec 2013 #104

BTW, you do understand that in this country we arrest those (who don't actually have TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #17

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #31

"Useless immigrant couple...providing for them..." You have revealed so much TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #39

I am not looking down on her because she is a maid cosmicone Dec 2013 #46

I don't think you know the full story yet, unless you are somehow connected to this case. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #52

The consular officers don't pay their servants cosmicone Dec 2013 #54

Maybe that's why India is so goddamn embarrassed, then, huh? TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #61

In any event, there was no need to arrest the Consul General cosmicone Dec 2013 #66

Right, but the allegation here is that Khobragade was taking the money alloted to her maid Recursion Dec 2013 #101

"useless immigrant couple" ? did you make a mistake and thing you were on FReerepublic ? JI7 Dec 2013 #42

a "useless immigrant couple?" mike_c Dec 2013 #44

See post No. 46 cosmicone Dec 2013 #50

You use the term "useless immigrant couple" here like you are at FoxNews.com or FreeRepublic. TeamPooka Dec 2013 #73

See my explanatory posts above cosmicone Dec 2013 #76

note that your post was hidden by jury decision. TeamPooka Dec 2013 #89

good thing, the attacks on the maid there are really disgusting JI7 Dec 2013 #11

There is due process of law in India cosmicone Dec 2013 #15

he must hate Italian AMericans also since he goes after those italian american mafia JI7 Dec 2013 #20

Mafia are violent criminals who commit murders etc. cosmicone Dec 2013 #22

Treating Workers like Shit is a violent crime also JI7 Dec 2013 #24

It has not been established that she was treated like shit cosmicone Dec 2013 #28

why would a CIA agent need to worry about something like that ? JI7 Dec 2013 #30

Scheming maid and CIA agent are two separate theories cosmicone Dec 2013 #33

BEHNGHAZI JI7 Dec 2013 #40

It is spelled B-E-N-G-A-Z-I cosmicone Dec 2013 #56

actually it's spelled BENGHAZI JI7 Dec 2013 #60

well spotted. n/t cosmicone Dec 2013 #79

Well, *actually* it's spelled... Recursion Dec 2013 #99

Yeah...well, I'm "humiliated" everytime I leave the country and come back. They.... BlueJazz Dec 2013 #18

You are not a diplomat. That's the difference, even if you... smitra Dec 2013 #25

She is from India where they treat women like HORSESHIT. I-Don't Care. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #36

Spare me that total B.S. Keep your biases and racism to yourself. smitra Dec 2013 #47

I agree, but the jury didn't Bradical79 Dec 2013 #92

Are you really going to call it racism now? treestar Dec 2013 #119

He/she called me a racist in another recent thread, for closeupready Dec 2013 #121

You are not handcuffed, cavity searched and thrown in a jail cell cosmicone Dec 2013 #26

the drug addicts are the real victims to be grouped up with a human trafficker JI7 Dec 2013 #29

WTF, "drug addicts"? I used to work with 'em. They're human beings as much as TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #32

Why don't you volunteer to stay in a jail cell with a few of them cosmicone Dec 2013 #35

Um, well, it probably won't come up since I didn't submit fraudulent info TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #49

So it is okay to give fraudulent information cosmicone Dec 2013 #53

Of course not. If the maid is charged and found guilty in the US of any crimes, TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #59

In the end, the maid will be proven to have lied cosmicone Dec 2013 #62

Throwing every other case you can think of at this issue in order to cloud it TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #67

All diplomatic posts of all countries cosmicone Dec 2013 #70

Yep, someone finally got caught flouting the law and was held accountable. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #93

She is from India where they treat women like HORSESHIT. I-Don't Care. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #34

Heard of Steubenville? n/t cosmicone Dec 2013 #37

BINGO! Those who live in glass houses.... smitra Dec 2013 #48

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #65

Nice to know you're not unbiased or poorly informed. cosmicone Dec 2013 #68

Yes. You are right. Everybody is allowed to despise (at least) ONE thing. Mine is India. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #82

You made that rule up for yourself? Really, amazing that a small-minded person like you... smitra Dec 2013 #85

Yes..It IS rather cool...isn't it ? BlueJazz Dec 2013 #86

You are going on my Ignore list. n/t smitra Dec 2013 #88

So you're pissed because I don't care for India...ok...because I hate India? BlueJazz Dec 2013 #90

You are entitled to your biased opinion. smitra Dec 2013 #72

There being rape in the US as there is everywhere treestar Dec 2013 #118

I fail to see how paying someone substandard wages and falsifying govt documents BainsBane Dec 2013 #102

OK. That, right there, is where Americans stop listening... Recursion Dec 2013 #103

Amen JustAnotherGen Dec 2013 #128

American hypocrisy? smitra Dec 2013 #57

i don't get it, you should be calling for the arrest of these people , not using the "everyone else JI7 Dec 2013 #63

I am informing the readers of this thread how the SYSTEM works... smitra Dec 2013 #64

so demand arrest for others, this is like saying a rapist should not be arrested and charged JI7 Dec 2013 #69

The comparisons between this case and rape are inappropriate, and odious. This should be clear to... smitra Dec 2013 #74

if you don't want any repsonses don't post on an online discussion forum JI7 Dec 2013 #77

I don't want responses from uninformed, biased people like you... smitra Dec 2013 #80

you accusing others of bias is hilarious JI7 Dec 2013 #81

This is one post to which I will respond with one word: LOL. End of discussion.n/t smitra Dec 2013 #84

Another link of corruption by US consular officers cosmicone Dec 2013 #75

Amazing, isnt' it? smitra Dec 2013 #83

Read the complaint here Ash_F Dec 2013 #91

I think it's more fraud than wage theft. The accused in this case submitted false TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #94

Yeah, I know that is what she was specifically jailed for Ash_F Dec 2013 #96

I agree. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #95

The falsified contract is what's causing the reaction Recursion Dec 2013 #106

Just to point out: You CAN be jailed for wage theft. Ash_F Dec 2013 #110

Am I reading this right? "But Mom! You didn't spank Tommy when HE did it! This isn't FAIR!" cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #100

Quoting Hussain Haqqani, Karl Inderfurth... smitra Dec 2013 #105

it's really frustrating but it comes back to people seeing Domestic Workers and other Poor as not JI7 Dec 2013 #109

With a measure of sadness, I am trashing this thread. smitra Dec 2013 #115

Oh, get over yourself. You branded me a racist in another recent thread. closeupready Dec 2013 #120

Exactly the kind of person that caused me to trash the threads, and make my point. smitra Dec 2013 #123

123 responses, and even YOU didn't rec the thread. closeupready Dec 2013 #124

Incarceration gets everyone strip searched seveneyes Dec 2013 #122

methinks India doth protest too much... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #125

she should have been treated with the Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #127

Foreign diplomats are allowed to bring household staff with them. Beacool Dec 2013 #129